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Post by kurnugi4a on Nov 3, 2015 1:03:44 GMT -5
Thanks sheshki and us4-he2-gal2. I focused my undergraduate career at UCLA in archaeology with a major in anthropology. Depending on which institution I plan to apply for graduate study, I will either do cuneiform studies or near eastern archaeology. And, no I was never aware of the SEAL project material. I wish I knew about it sooner though, incantations gave me quite a headache. Looking at the website, it seems it would be good to practice my Akkadian given the transliterations available. Thanks for directing me to this resource.
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Post by friggit on Mar 8, 2016 9:33:44 GMT -5
Dear all, I am new here as well. Although I'm no anthropologist or theologist (rather an evolutionary biologist who got side tracked on his spare time;)), I've been curious about the Sumerian language and the cuneiform script. I'm reading the epic of Gilgamesh these days, and this has inspired me to get a cuneiform tatto as well. I hope that some of you might be able to aid me in my definitive concept, since my cuneiform grammar is a little rusty.
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Post by hukkana on Mar 8, 2016 10:35:37 GMT -5
Dear all, I am new here as well. Although I'm no anthropologist or theologist (rather an evolutionary biologist who got side tracked on his spare time;)), I've been curious about the Sumerian language and the cuneiform script. I'm reading the epic of Gilgamesh these days, and this has inspired me to get a cuneiform tatto as well. I hope that some of you might be able to aid me in my definitive concept, since my cuneiform grammar is a little rusty. Welcome to the board. And the fact you know anything about cuneiform grammar automatically puts you leagues above myself because, well, I don't even know where to begin and I'm usually terrible with remembering grammar rules in real life XD
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Post by sheshki on Mar 8, 2016 19:24:04 GMT -5
Welcome on board friggit, well, since we already dealt with cuneiform tattoos in the past, and a few of us do have cuneiform tattoos, i think there is a good chance that we can provide some help. Greetings sheshki
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Post by santakku on Mar 9, 2016 14:59:19 GMT -5
Hi,
I'm a postgraduate studying the economic life of Neo-Babylonian temples, but am well drilled in many periods of Akkadian and Sumerian. I came across this whilst searching for a book, and I realised what I'd been missing. I have been and continue to be thoroughly institutionalised, in an environment where all one's efforts are dedicated to half a dozen people in a university. I'm reminded of the colophons on Babylonian scholarly texts that warn against dissemination with horrible curses! But I want to do more. So, I'm really here to be an Assyriologist for hire (without an actual fee, of course!) - to put my acquired skills to good use. I am especially interested in learning about the other forms an interest in Mesopotamia takes, apart from being a degree option.
So, I might be able to get involved in:
- Bibliographical endeavours - several years spent trawling through good and bad resources. - Grammar resources - Sumerian or Akkadian, beginner or otherwise, I'd love to give writing these a go. If there are any gaps in your existing resources, please say. - Grammar debates - I'd love to talk through the trickier points with others, especially in an environment where I don't need to pretend to know everything. - Locating primary sources - might be hard for outsiders, especially for the less well known stuff, so happy to help. - Religion - I come from (secular) Hebrew Bible studies, so religion is a keen interest. Am absolutely fascinated that some here seem to identify as Sumerian, and would love to learn more in conversation. - Translation - big love for translating poetry as poetry, literature as literature, etc. I get in trouble for it! Not scientific enough... But perhaps here is the forum. Would love assistance in finishing my metrically faithful Isztar's Descent, but would be equally happy to do the odd incantation as needed. - History and sociology - if anyone's interested? - Coding - I do a bit of that. Work a lot with cuneiform Unicode, fonts, etc. I'm working on a cuneiform keyboard. I also created a transcription algorithm that converted Akkadian to speech via (Arabic) Google Translate! Was pretty good too, until Google blocked external requests... But if someone needs help presenting cuneiform digitally, I may be able to help.
Woah, that's a lot! Better stop there. But, in summary, please don't be afraid to make a request - provided you're okay with the possibility I may have to admit ignorance.
Thanks for being here!
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Post by creyente on Mar 9, 2016 16:56:44 GMT -5
welcome santakku, hope we can be helpfull to you as well.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Mar 12, 2016 1:38:21 GMT -5
Hello Santakku - Welcome to enenuru Very pleased to see a new member with such a dedication to Mesopotamian culture, and your offers of discussion are appreciated. Enenuru is indeed a rare find, in my opinion, an academic Mesopotamian discussion forum open to all and almost in its 9th year running. As eccentric a community as the subject matter demands. As you see on this board, my interests have always been for the very earliest and for incantation lore, but I study now under Prof. Beaulieu and Prof. Heather Baker (I'm sure you follow their work). So I must develop my grasp of the late period further. In anycase, it may be best to post a few things that you find fun about Mesopotamia, if you are inclined, people who make a few threads are often the ones who get the most use of this forum. I'll try my best to make good replies, I am slow at the current time due to tests and writing demands, so the pace is a bit slow. Best regards- Bill
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Post by sheshki on Mar 19, 2016 13:30:43 GMT -5
Welcome santakku, nice to have you here.
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Post by hukkana on Mar 30, 2016 19:25:06 GMT -5
I wonder, would it be good to have some place to report weird site behaviour ? Because I've been unable to actually log into Enenuru for the whole day, as the loading screen would infinitely load and never get anywhere on Firefox. Mashing F5 did nothing as well.
It did work on a reboot but I still find it weird because at least initially it actually loaded up the login link normally on a different browser.
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creyente
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Post by creyente on Mar 31, 2016 0:24:04 GMT -5
didnt find any weird behaviour besides of my own but all jokes aside, that could mean the problem is firefox. when you write any kind of code for a website, you have to make sure its compatible with at least the 3 most common browsers... firefox is usually a must, but i dont know why it wouldnt be compatible... if it was an error that just happened once, it might have to do with the server. anyway, i hope it was helpful for whoever is working on the problem.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Apr 13, 2016 13:19:33 GMT -5
Hey hukkana:
Sorry to be slow getting back to you, I've just finished my exams for the year so I am sitting down to write on enenuru. Hope your login issues have cleared up, but if it is an ongoing issue you can e-mail me directly, bill.mcgrath@mail.utoronto.ca and I will check with proboards to see if there are compatibility issues with some browsers.
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Post by hukkana on Apr 13, 2016 16:15:23 GMT -5
Hey hukkana: Sorry to be slow getting back to you, I've just finished my exams for the year so I am sitting down to write on enenuru. Hope your login issues have cleared up, but if it is an ongoing issue you can e-mail me directly, bill.mcgrath@mail.utoronto.ca and I will check with proboards to see if there are compatibility issues with some browsers. It was only an issue for about a day, I think it may have been proboards related. Don't worry.
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Post by anakushaenzi on May 6, 2016 20:27:15 GMT -5
Hello, fellow shades of the netherworld!
My interest in Mesopotamia started some years ago, when I saw just how much the modern world owed the region. I got my hands on N. K. Sandar's translation of Gilgamesh and started on the language through Caplice's Akkadian grammar.
I left off my studies, and only picked them up again for a novel project when I saw how much the Sargon myth resembled a superhero origin story. My research for that story, I can safely say, has gotten out of hand. I've been relearning Akkadian (leaving the orthography for later) from Martin Worthington's Complete Babylonian. I've managed to acquire the Concise Dictionary of Akkadian, Miller and Shipp's An Akkadian Handbook, and Martha Roth's Law Collections from Mesopotamia and Asia Minor.
I am finding the Code of Hammurabi to be tough going sometimes, even working from Roth's normalization, but I was much heartened when I managed to read CH #24 ("If a life is lost (during the robbery...)") by sight alone. Still, I find weak verbs are the most likely to badly throw me: they make picking out the root letters much more difficult, and the possibility of assimilation makes every cliff a little bit steeper.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on May 7, 2016 1:46:51 GMT -5
Hello anakushaenz: Welcome to enenuru Seems a fair number of people come to Mesopotamian studies through creative writing, something I don't know much about but our members ummia-inim-gina and hukkana could relate. As for enenuru there are academics here who could hook you up with materials, should you want to attempt to research the culture in whatever direction. As for language learning, certainly commendable to tackle such a challenge, it does years and often one must throw themselves at it time and again to make progress. You may be interested in the Akkadian learning group recently proposed by tuppum here.
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Post by ninisina on May 10, 2016 7:06:06 GMT -5
Hey! I'm a PhD student in France, and I'm doing my thesis on Mesopotamian therapeutic incantations. From what I've already seen of this forum, it looks to be a goldmine on the subject! By the way Us4-he2-gal2, I've read the paper you posted on academia a while ago, found it really interesting. I'm fascinated by everything that's related to magic, the power of words and speech, and early medicine, so thanks for creating this space, I think I'm gonna be very happy here !
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on May 10, 2016 18:53:28 GMT -5
Ninisina:
Welcome to enenuru! certainly good to see a new member whose interests align with one of the central interests here, incantations (although, for anyone else reading this, we do of course cover all of Mesopotamian culture on an ongoing basis). Nice to hear you found something interesting in my academia paper, not so many people do I suppose. Look forward to discussing incantation lore in the future (I am writing a small MA thesis on SA.GIG diagnostic texts).
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Post by zombiehjort on May 17, 2016 15:11:15 GMT -5
Dear all
I am ZombieHjort, and i have recently started studying Akkadian, though i have a longstanding interest in all things Mesopotamian and really all near-eastern history before the iron age, among other things.
In my meatspace life i am doing a Ph.D. in biology, so this is very much a hobby project for me. At present i am in the initial stages of learning the Akkadian language.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on May 20, 2016 17:17:15 GMT -5
Hello Zombie, welcome to enenuru. Best of luck with your study of Akkadian and I am sure we can learn some things in the Akkadian study group.
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Post by inimgina on Jul 22, 2016 1:02:18 GMT -5
This is ummia inimgina. I haven't been posting for over a year now because I haven't been able to access my account. I decided to break down and make a new account so I can return to participating on the board. I am no longer an ummia but I still speak the truth.
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Post by Revenance on Aug 4, 2016 20:12:44 GMT -5
Hello everyone! I'm very excited to have found this site - I have so many questions about everything! I've always had a little bit of a crush on ancient Mesopotamian culture, and it seems to have recently developed into more of a love affair. Like many others here, I share a strong interest in religion and magical practices, and I am thrilled with the dedication to scholarship this site offers. I am looking forward to learning all I can!
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Post by sheshki on Aug 5, 2016 11:42:05 GMT -5
Hello Revenance,
welcome on board. I hope you will have some fun here.
Also a warm welcome to all the other new members.
Sheshki
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 6, 2016 12:49:08 GMT -5
Welcome back Ummia - I mean, inimgina Certainly enjoy your focus as always. Welcome to the board Ravenance, your are certainly invited to ask anything you with. If you would like to research/read about something but do not have the materials, let me know
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Post by sheshki on Sept 22, 2016 19:22:40 GMT -5
I would like to encourage all new members to write a little introduction here. Thank you!
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Post by brutonauta on Oct 5, 2016 20:26:23 GMT -5
Hi! I'm not shure how much I can contribute to the forum. I got here couse I was searching something and there war a link to a discussion abbout that. I work with video and am very curiou abbout ancient history and mithology. I regitered here so I could interact in the forum. I hope I wont be much of a burden to you guys. (and sorry for my bad english, it's not my native language)
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Post by stephenharris on Nov 16, 2016 18:57:20 GMT -5
Hi all, my name is Stephen and I'm a student between my master's and doctorate at the moment (as of 2016), but my language experience so far is Hebrew (classical, epigraphic, and some Mishnaic), Aramaic (Old, Imperial, Middle, Biblical, Elephantine, as well as some Qumranic and Targumic), Ugaritic (this was only a recent acquisition, but I feel comfortable translating with confidence at this point), and some Akkadian. I've primarily engaged with Old Babylonian grammar as far as Akkadian goes, and I've learned some signs (from lessons 9-13 of Huehnergard's grammar). It would be nice to continue learning the language with others, so if there are other members in about the same boat as me, maybe we can help each other out to be study/accountability partners for really gaining ground in the grammar of the language and (of course) the signs too. Many Assyriologists have told me that, as tempting as it may be, don't let learning the minutia of the signs get in the way of making gains in the grammar; the signs are absolutely necessary for learning the language, however, they can also be a siren that distracts students from what really contributes to one's understanding of the language -its grammar and syntax. Thanks for having me everyone. I look forward to reading and contributing when I can!
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Post by sheshki on Nov 17, 2016 7:04:00 GMT -5
Hi Stephen, welcome on board!
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Nov 17, 2016 9:02:18 GMT -5
Hello Stephan - that sounds like an impressive knowledge of Aramaic. My Aramaic is introductory, my Ugaritic horrible, and I'm somewhat better with Biblical Hebrew. But Akkadian I am more comfortable with. Cuneiform is something that is best to 'fetishize' if you want to learn it, that's my opinion. So one could write it on one's walls, write it on your hand, make flashcards, and ideally practice writing it as well as reading it - all of that isn't necessary exactly but it that sort of thing helped me in the early days. See our cuneiform diaries thread. Welcome to enenuru
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Post by Lu-uri-ning-tuku on May 7, 2017 1:02:13 GMT -5
Hello friends. I have been a fan of Mesopotamian civilization since I was old enough to give history any consideration. I remember long hours reading wiki pages at the library as a young teen. Over time I became more and more interested in the linguistic side of things. I studied a few languages formally in university, but the only one I developed an intimate relation with was Sumerian. These days I am not professionally involved with the field, but I continue my studies as a hobbyist. I think I actually made an account here a few years ago but I only made a few posts and can't remember what I might have called my account. In any case glad to be joining the club. Cheers!
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Post by hukkana on May 7, 2017 2:31:31 GMT -5
Hello friends. I have been a fan of Mesopotamian civilization since I was old enough to give history any consideration. I remember long hours reading wiki pages at the library as a young teen. Over time I became more and more interested in the linguistic side of things. I studied a few languages formally in university, but the only one I developed an intimate relation with was Sumerian. These days I am not professionally involved with the field, but I continue my studies as a hobbyist. I think I actually made an account here a few years ago but I only made a few posts and can't remember what I might have called my account. In any case glad to be joining the club. Cheers! Welcome. I'd say it wouldn't be too hard to find your old profile, if you could say what year it was, and provided it wasn't deleted since.
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rummah
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Post by rummah on Jun 7, 2017 9:57:54 GMT -5
Hello: I am a new enthusiast of Sumerian culture and am here to learn everything I can. There is much to know and I am glad many people have done the hard work for those of us who came late. Right now I am trying to figure out the difference between Babylon, Sumer, Akkadian, Mead, Persian, Elomite, etc. I am sure there is a lot of information here on those subjects.
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