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Post by sheshki on Nov 8, 2011 18:50:28 GMT -5
Some drawing that will be used as parts of the artwork. |
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Post by sheshki on Dec 30, 2011 17:16:16 GMT -5
Today i did read in "The Ur III Collection of the CMAA" ( www.cdli.ucla.edu/pubs/cdlj/2002/cdlj2002_001.pdf) and because its all administrative texts there were alot tablets with transactions of sheeps, cows and so on. So i went out to buy a small book and started to write down signs/transliterations and translations for words from the tablets. I will look through more tablets in the future and at some point i will sort them in categories into another book (already bought) and of course i will try to memorize them. Sounds like fun, doesnt it? |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Jan 7, 2012 11:03:02 GMT -5
This is indeed an odd pursuit Sheshki - administrative and economic texts of course make for a bland read  and yet the essential activity you describe, charting out signs and making reference books, is brilliant! ;] certainly nothing is closer to the core of Assyriology than that. I think no matter where one is coming from or attempting to go with the interest, this is the activity you will eventuallly end up with. |
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Post by sheshki on Jan 30, 2012 2:32:11 GMT -5
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Jan 30, 2012 9:17:59 GMT -5
Aha And so the Leipzigians experience the yearly phenomena of a long dead writing system appearing in the snow - sort of like crop circles. I still think you should do some near the Altorientalistik studies center hehe ;] |
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Post by Salmu on Feb 7, 2012 12:16:56 GMT -5
 Sorry to burst your bubble Bill, but I have visual evidence for the phenomenon's creation....notice Sheshki's determination over finishing that KI with perfect symmetry. (the Meso Institute might give us too great a challenge though. It's on the sixth floor)  |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Feb 10, 2012 11:24:48 GMT -5
ahhh ha - Here in North America the sasquatch is some big hairy animal that roams at random and leaves stupid oversize footprints.
In Europe however, the sasquatch is indeed a stranger creature still, with pointy ears, unusual fashion sense, and whereever it walks it leaves signs in a frustratingly obscure script.
Strange world indeed 0_0
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Post by sheshki on Mar 22, 2012 12:03:22 GMT -5
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Post by vacancy on Apr 10, 2012 0:29:38 GMT -5
Hey guys im new here but i was wondering if you could translate the name "Rylee" into cuneiform for me:
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Post by sheshki on Apr 10, 2012 13:10:46 GMT -5
Well, i guess there are different possibilities to convert "Rylee" into cuneiform: This one is ra-i-li    or maybe ri-li-i  also possible would be ri-le-e... or maybe breaking down rylee into rye and lee (and i checked a translationwebsite, they say lee in german is "schutz", another word for "schutz" is "cover") So its rye (only found "grain"," ašnan2 "grain, cereals") and cover (haz [COVER] wr. ha-az )   and i havent even touched the issue of the different kinds of cuneiform... |
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Post by madness on Apr 10, 2012 19:50:58 GMT -5
> Hey guys im new here but i was wondering if you could translate the name "Rylee" into cuneiform for me <
Well the cuneiform artwork that sheshki has been presenting is Sumerian/Akkadian, which is not alphabetic. An English name cannot be translated into non-alphabetic writing without difficulty.
The only alphabetic cuneiform system that I am aware of is Ugaritic.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Apr 10, 2012 20:27:28 GMT -5
Well, to get even more specific about the problem, the vowel sound you hear at the beginning of Rylee, sounds like the sound in the English word my or thigh or buy or hi - all are examples of the sound linguists call the /aj/ dipathong (a vowel that glides from the back to the front of the mouth basically, or vice versa). The problem is these ancient languages concerned did not have the English /aj/ or a sound like it, so Sheshki's signs are about as good as you will get. I'd go with first or second one for sure. Or three if you are feeling abstract |
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Post by sheshki on May 16, 2012 12:21:08 GMT -5
Last weekend i was in Vilnius/Lithuania for gigs and guess what, i met someone else with a cuneiform tattoo. He is a member of the band Survival Unit from Sweden. They performed there as well.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on May 19, 2012 14:52:46 GMT -5
My first reaction to this news is still my strong opinion: Surely the stars were in some strange alignment that probably the two most cuneiform tattooed guys in the world should run into each other by chance at a show 0_0 Or near chance. It's not like making electronic music necessarily means one will know about Mesopotamian and maybe get a cuneiform tattoo someday. I'd say there probably only two such persons - which makes the meeting quite unlikely indeed ;] well we will have to see if he shows up around here. Might take an interest in this thread.
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Post by darkl2030 on May 19, 2012 15:25:28 GMT -5
lets try to read it... 1. udug?! hul 2. azag2 hul 3. nam-tar hul 4. a-la2 hul 5. mashkim hul 6. galla hul 7. lu2-gi6-DI-DI Just not really sure about the first sign (its a little hard to see) and how to read the last two  Cool tat. If I ever get a cuneiform tat I want to have a little more stylized, like if I actually have chisseled stone growing out of my flesh. After all, the idea of cuneiform drawn as lines is a little anachronistic Also not to be a hater but the IGI and UR signs that make up the HUL should really be drawn together as if one sign for the most ancient and authentic rendering . |
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Post by sheshki on Jul 19, 2012 15:16:01 GMT -5
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Post by sheshki on Jul 27, 2012 13:56:47 GMT -5
Next tablet was inspired by another Fara EDIIIa tablet. ...and look, it has my name 3 times on it |
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Post by sheshki on Jul 29, 2012 11:16:35 GMT -5
A handmade bowl with some inscriptions and ornaments. |
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Post by sheshki on Dec 8, 2012 8:45:23 GMT -5
Made another clay bowl.  
THE CLAY IS MIGHTY! |
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Post by sheshki on Dec 9, 2012 12:16:06 GMT -5
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Dec 11, 2012 21:55:55 GMT -5
Very cool the clay of the first bowl has a great color and consistency - the second bowl I like how deep it is. And the Ziggurat and wedge art. I got an appreciation of just how hard is is to make clay bowls recently. One of the archaeology classes I am in had a day where we made our own pottery - I didn't really get a chance to enjoy it as they gave us only 2 hours to learn to work with clay and make a pot.. I felt like I needed much more than this however as my pot kept transforming into a lump the more I worked it and never stayed like the pot I wanted. Eventually when we ran out of time it was more like a pot then a lump - but not work of art of course Have you got a way of firing them - must be fired if its staying together. Do you just stick it in the oven for a few hours? |
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Post by sheshki on Dec 13, 2012 13:24:06 GMT -5
Well, i haven´t tried to fire them, a normal oven at home is not hot enough, but airdried is good enough as long as they dont get wet. But im toying with the idea of getting some of my tablets fired since a while. Btw, to make a good bowl you have to become one with the clay.  |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Dec 13, 2012 14:43:47 GMT -5
Well if I remember correctly the firing temperature for clay is ideally around 700 or 800 degrees (maybe). Most ovens (at least here in America/Canada) heat to around 500 degrees on maximum. I think. So you could get reasonable close to firing heat. Maybe it would harden the bowl more.. I have heard of imperfections in a clay or air bubbles causing it to crack or explode during firing process so there are some risks as well. |
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Post by madness on Dec 15, 2012 0:18:06 GMT -5
You could try polymer clay which is designed to be heated in an ordinary oven.
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Post by sheshki on Dec 16, 2012 15:02:32 GMT -5
@bill: well close to firing temperatur is like missing the goal closely. madness: thanks for the tip, but i think i´ll stay with the pure clayAnd while we are speaking of clay, who is mighty, i take the chance to show you my latest piece of clayvessel, this time handpainted. And i have to say i´m very happy with the outcome. The painted decoration is loosely inspired by OIP63: Pottery from the diyala region. |
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Post by darkl2030 on Dec 17, 2012 15:43:54 GMT -5
Very, very beautiful Sheshki! You haeve truly mastered the classical Mesopotamian script, and the painting is very tasteful and appropriate. It evokes an early period of Mesopotamian history, has a very Uruk feel to it! I do have one comment though. For the period of the style of script you are using, the text should be rotated 90 degrees clockwise with respect to any images or pictures. Take a look at i.e. the Hammurabi code, or any cylinder seal with an inscription. Or check out these objects: www.lessing-photo.com/search.asp?a=1&kc=2020202034A6&kw=DEDICATION&p=1&ipp=Obviously if you just dig up a tablet, you can't necessarily tell how you are supposed to hold it and what direction to read, even though you could still correctly read the contents while holding the wrong way. Tablets were probably already written and read the way we hold them, left to right, by late Sargonic times. You can tell because the tablets are long and narrow, like a modern piece of paper. But the earlier, round type of tablet with the individual cases, kinda like the ones you made above, were probably still written and read up to down, right to left. The archaic style, vertical style was still used art/monumental inscriptions, inscribed objects, etc. until after the Old Babylonian period. Invariably, whenever we dig up something with a picture on it, or that you can tell which way is right side up, the script is vertical. I think it looks way cooler and more ancient ;D |
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Post by sheshki on Dec 22, 2012 11:41:02 GMT -5
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Post by sheshki on Dec 25, 2012 13:26:39 GMT -5
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Post by sheshki on Dec 30, 2012 8:18:52 GMT -5
 one side of the second cup, rest is still white when i made the second cup there was clay left so i made this  |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Dec 30, 2012 14:25:58 GMT -5
Clay has been *very* busy The new line of Diyala inspired Frankware is very eye catching indeed. An interesting thing about alot of the geometric shapes that the Mesopotamians used, is how symmetrical the negative space is - for example on the thin piece you show at the end the patterns perfectly repeat themselves in the negative space. I suppose the repeatition and symmetry may be part of the key to its attractiveness ;] |
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and yet the essential activity you describe, charting out signs and making reference books, is brilliant! ;] certainly nothing is closer to the core of Assyriology than that. I think no matter where one is coming from or attempting to go with the interest, this is the activity you will eventuallly end up with.
