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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 19, 2008 10:15:38 GMT -5
Thanks very much from these dissertations Shupu! You are incredible! I love that first one on medicine and magic - and we have a thread on numerology somewhere that may benefit from the third. I would love to read through them and perhaps mail some regards to the authors or if they are still active in the field or are students who figure no one will read this stuff P.S. Will have that KAR 44 stuff scanned for you by mid-week P.P.S Madness - thanks for the reminder
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Post by amarsin on Aug 19, 2008 16:31:09 GMT -5
I would love to read through them and perhaps mail some regards to the authors or if they are still active in the field or are students who figure no one will read this stuff I think that Ali, the author of the Sumerian letters diss, was a prof in Baghdad. He defended his Penn diss in 1964, so if we assume that he was 25 then, and it's now 44 years later, then he's close to 70 assuming he's still alive. But I haven't seen anything published by him in a long, long, time. (I think a lot of the tablets he worked on his dissertation are being re-edited with new material in a forthcoming dissertation, BTW...) As for the numbers dissertation-- Powell is still alive, but he retired a few years ago and more or less said "I'm done with Mesopotamia" and I doubt he'd respond to you! (I think he sent an email essentially saying "don't send me any more offprints or anything; I don't want them"). His work was updated for the long, but super-comprehensive (and super dense) entry in the RlA, Masse und Gewichte.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 19, 2008 21:59:44 GMT -5
Oh you know me Amarsin - I never consider anyone a hopeless case when it comes to group particpation hum...0_0 call me crazy. Hadn't noticed it was Powell who wrote the third one though! Perhaps I'd allow myself to be a bit intimidated in sending him my regards, as I have actually just been reviewing his JCS 46 article - actually a review article. He makes a case for Enhegal, a pre-dynastic early king of Lagash, not being a king at all (contrary to most interpretations..) Notes on that are at enenuru.net > Sumerian history > notes on kings > dynastie of Lagash > Enhegal > Enhegal a spurious king? I will have to ask you about dissertations Shupu and see ifn I cant mention some interesting ones in return!
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Post by shupuwhenip on Aug 20, 2008 0:09:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, Madness! I wish I'd checked online before going to the library tonight or I would have checked it out. And thanks, us4-he2-gal2, I'm looking forward to seeing it!
I borrowed a couple of incantation series from the library and at least one of them has been out of print for a few decades so I should have a new pdf up within a week or so.
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Post by shupuwhenip on Aug 20, 2008 0:20:54 GMT -5
Hi all, Me again. I just found out Geller's planning a revision of his "Forerunners to Udug-hul". The 1985 version has been out of print for a long time and is no longer available at most bookstores. At least none in my country. So I'm taking this all as a green light to post a pdf version that has come into my hands. rapidshare.com/files/138648516/Geller-Forerunners.pdf.htmlIt's not as good as scan as Reiner's "Surpu". The incantations were scanned as single pages and are selectable and searchable, but the intro, commentary, and index were scanned as double page images so they can't be searched. Not perfect, but I figure it will make a handy reference while still leaving enough motivation to buy the new revision when it comes out.
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Post by shupuwhenip on Aug 26, 2008 4:39:14 GMT -5
What does one part animal vivisection, one part raunchy lyrics, and one part handjob equal? The ancient Mesopotamian version of viagra: Biggs's "SA.ZI.GA: Ancient Mesopotamian Potency Incantations". It's a nice scan, and searchable too so you can quickly find the incantation you're looking for: "My vagina is the vagina of a bitch! His penis is the penis of a dog! As the vagina of a bitch holds fast the penis of a dog, (so may my vagina hold fast his penis)!" www.zshare.net/download/1763735497ee2514/
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 27, 2008 21:59:11 GMT -5
Shupu: These contributions amaze me We shall eagerly make use of your offerings here, I promise you - I have emailed the group about the importance of the Geller material, and as for SHA.ZI.GA incantations, within a week I hope to start a threa don these, which will complement the information we have on the Bal.bal.e thread from G. Leick's work. This is a great piece of Mesopotamian obscurity and I'm glad our reach and perspective is expanded today Thanks again. Now I owe you quite a few!
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Post by sheshki on Sept 3, 2008 17:46:40 GMT -5
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Post by shupuwhenip on Sept 11, 2008 0:23:26 GMT -5
Greetings Enenurians! Here's a link to Caplice's "Namburbi Texts", circa 1974. It's a small collection of rituals for dealing with evil omens. www.zshare.net/download/1856650822147344/My favorite is text #7's "Ritual for the evil of a dog", which tells you what to do if an evil dog urinates on your leg. Unfortunately it doesn't have a ritual for pigeons pooping on your car. Even more unfortunately this small booklet only has the English translations. It's a fun read though and may be useful for someone's research (or schizophrenic breakdown, but hey we knew there were risks when we enlisted). I haven't looked for published transliterations yet but I will do so in the near future. I'm now back in school and I have some things to do over the next month so this may be the last book I post for a while (if we can call these 26 pages a book). But I'll still be around and I'm always open to requests for articles and suggestions for future scans.
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Post by shupuwhenip on Sept 11, 2008 0:47:48 GMT -5
Hmm, I don't want to end on post #13. What was that you said about schizophrenia? Here is Oppenheim's "The Interpretation of Dreams in the Ancient Near East, With a Translation of an Assyrian Dream-Book". (Cite: Transactions of the American Philosophical Society, New Series, Vol. 46, No. 3, (1956), pp. 179-373) www.zshare.net/download/1856907421c78aa5/
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Post by shupuwhenip on Sept 11, 2008 1:03:29 GMT -5
And one more, because #14s look at me funny when they think I'm not paying attention. I've been meaning to post this one for a while. It's a dissertation that deals with the Surpu incantations series (a link to the series is in my first post). It dates to 1987 and was the first (and to my knowledge still the only) relatively detailed look at Reiner's Surpu incantations. The title refers to a comparison the writer makes with the Egyptian Book of the Dead. "Studies in comparative religion and literature of the ancient Near East: An interpretation of Surpu and Spell 125" www.zshare.net/download/18569422c770bb07/
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Post by sheshki on Sept 11, 2008 2:26:05 GMT -5
hey shurpu,
thanks much for sharing with us. will have a look at em tonight. assyrian dreambook...sounds interesting. do u have a babylonian signlist at hand by chance in that school you are? could need that to assimilate it to the enenuru.net-signlist...
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Post by shupuwhenip on Sept 11, 2008 3:17:21 GMT -5
Borger's Neo-Assyrian typeset is used for the intro class. After that, Huehnergard's "Grammar of Akkadian" is used for it's intro of Old Babylonian lapidary and OB cursive signs, supplemented with von Soden and Rollig's "Das Akkadishe Syllabar" to flesh out the rest of the Neo-Assyrian system. Labat's "Manuel d'epigraphie akkadienne" (which is kind of overkill because it has like 10-12 variants for each period: Jemdat Nasr, OA, OB, OAssy, etc) is also introduced. Which of these is used at any given time depends on the prof and what readings he wants to work with.
Another sign list is Borger's "Mesoptamisches Zeichenlexikon" which works mostly with Neo-Assyrian but in the appendices (I think) are some other concordances lists, e.g. for Neo-Babylonian, OB, and maybe a few others, though I haven't really looked at it.
As for what I could provide, unfortunately I only have Borger's Neo-Assyrian at the moment. I've been meaning to borrow Labat's from the library.
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Post by madness on Sept 11, 2008 5:07:19 GMT -5
> Here is Oppenheim's "The Interpretation of Dreams in the Ancient Near East, With a Translation of an Assyrian Dream-Book" <
Ah excellent. This book has recently been republished, containing a new introduction by Scott Noegel. Other than that I think it is the same as the original edition.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Sept 12, 2008 9:01:33 GMT -5
Shupu: Ah very good very good Another amazing contribution! I have wanted access to Oppenheim's book on dreams for about two years now, but have had to settle for his JNES article and a number of times people have referrened the book for me. As for the Namburbi, this may make a good october challenge And the dissertation: absolutely fascinating! You are without a doubt a greatly generous fellow so we owe you some: I should finish my appointed task and email by the end of the night. Thanks for you continued support man ;]
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Post by madness on Oct 19, 2008 7:53:47 GMT -5
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Post by madness on Oct 22, 2008 3:08:24 GMT -5
While I'm on the subject of death, I'll note here that the Oriental Institute has recently released the second printing of: Performing Death: Social Analyses of Funerary Traditions in the Ancient Near East and Mediterranean oi.uchicago.edu/research/pubs/catalog/ois/ois3.htmlFeatures another article by Dina Katz, "Sumerian Funerary Rituals in Context"
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Post by laramar on Nov 13, 2008 18:26:20 GMT -5
I just came across this article from Electronic Journal of Folklore Vol. 16, published by Folk Belief and Media Group of Estonian Literary Museum. It discusses the Mesopotamian planet names and signs and the gods connected to them. Understading Planets in Ancient Mesopotamia
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Nov 14, 2008 15:34:40 GMT -5
Oh nice ;] I know at least one person who is approaching Astral science in Mesopotamia and there is our one thread which flirts with the topic but does quite engage it that sometime could use an update! See here
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Post by madness on Jan 2, 2009 7:01:27 GMT -5
www.ieiop.com/Instituto de Estudios Islámicos y del Oriente Próximo In their publications section they have, as freely downloadable pdf, the (almost) complete set of: Studi Epigrafici e Linguistici sul Vicino Oriente Antico (SEL) Estudios de Dialectología Norteafricana y Andalusí (EDNA) I'm sure there are lots of good ones here to pick up. Ones that caught my eye: A. Alberti, A Reconstruction of the Abu Salabikh God-List, SEL 2 (1985) A. Catagnoti, M. Bonechi, Magic and Divination at IIIrd Millennium Ebla, 1. Textual Typologies and Preliminary Lexical Approach, SEL 15 (1998) G. Cunningham, Summoning the Sacred in Sumerian Incantations, SEL 15 (1998) T. Abusch, The Internalization of Suffering and Illness in Mesopotamia: A Development in Mesopotamian Witchcraft Literature, SEL 15 (1998) A. Livingstone, The Use of Magic in the Assyrian and Babylonian Hemerologies and Menologies, SEL 15 (1998)
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Post by david on Jan 3, 2009 13:44:12 GMT -5
Thanks for that cool link, Madness. David. www.ieiop.com/Instituto de Estudios Islámicos y del Oriente Próximo In their publications section they have, as freely downloadable pdf, the (almost) complete set of: Studi Epigrafici e Linguistici sul Vicino Oriente Antico (SEL) Estudios de Dialectología Norteafricana y Andalusí (EDNA) I'm sure there are lots of good ones here to pick up. Ones that caught my eye: A. Alberti, A Reconstruction of the Abu Salabikh God-List, SEL 2 (1985) A. Catagnoti, M. Bonechi, Magic and Divination at IIIrd Millennium Ebla, 1. Textual Typologies and Preliminary Lexical Approach, SEL 15 (1998) G. Cunningham, Summoning the Sacred in Sumerian Incantations, SEL 15 (1998) T. Abusch, The Internalization of Suffering and Illness in Mesopotamia: A Development in Mesopotamian Witchcraft Literature, SEL 15 (1998) A. Livingstone, The Use of Magic in the Assyrian and Babylonian Hemerologies and Menologies, SEL 15 (1998)
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Post by madness on Jan 6, 2009 2:16:55 GMT -5
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Post by david on Jan 10, 2009 11:33:15 GMT -5
Cool link, thanks for sharing it. David.
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Post by madness on Feb 23, 2009 2:48:39 GMT -5
A few dissertations available for download here, from the religion department of Vanderbilt University: etd.library.vanderbilt.edu/ETD-db/ETD-browse/browse?keywords=by_department;browse_by=department;first_letter=RRepresentations of the Poor in The Poor Man of Nippur and The Eloquent PeasantDiscusses poverty, folklore, the pauper Gimil-Ninurta, and more. Before Joan of Arc: Gender Identity and Heroism in Ancient Mesopotamian Birth RitualsContains an insightful look at birth in Mesopotamia, the moon god Sin, water creation stories, and water symbolism in human birth. An Analysis of Celestial Omina in the Light of Mesopotamian Cosmology and MythosMagic, omens, extispicy, prophecy, dreams, and a look at each planet god.
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Post by madness on Mar 29, 2009 20:46:44 GMT -5
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Post by sheshki on Jun 10, 2009 10:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by madness on Jun 15, 2009 22:59:47 GMT -5
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Post by madness on Aug 30, 2009 1:33:13 GMT -5
Revue de l'histoire des religions (RHR) www.persee.fr/web/revues/home/prescript/revue/rhrAll articles from 1946-2004, viewable online and pdf downloadable. One by Lambert in 207-2 (1990) which I have been looking for, where he (122-125) is unconvinced of a pre-anthropomorphic stage of Sumerian religion (per Spycket and Jacobsen).
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Post by madness on Nov 27, 2009 2:38:37 GMT -5
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Post by madness on Mar 13, 2010 6:01:22 GMT -5
The Elamite Cylinder Seal Corpus, c.3500 - 1000 BC hdl.handle.net/2123/5352(About 93MB) PhD dissertation by Karen J. Roach submitted to the University of Sydney. With almost 3600 seals catalogued, this is a must download, especially for anyone with an interest in snake gods.
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