Temple of Ishtar = LOL
May 30, 2008 21:14:25 GMT -5
Post by xuchilpaba on May 30, 2008 21:14:25 GMT -5
This is prolly old news, but i lol at it.
Check out the Temple of Ishtar and tell me how many things you find completely and utterly wrong about it.
Highlights:
>In the Temples of the old ways people would go to the temple TO BE WORSHIPPED not to worship.
This is hilarious to me, because appearently all pagans of the world didn't ever worship deities... No they thought of themselves as deities and therefore needed temples to worship themselves? does that even make any sense if one considers oneself as a god? Sounds very Levay Satanist in concept to me, and I don't remember any historical pagans believing that way at all.
>Men would come to Her Temple TO BE WORSHIPPED. Men would be welcomed and served by the Priestesses and men would represent the divine male principal, the Horned One, the Sacred Bull, The God.
Oh yeah because serving men is totally "feminist" and empowering and yeah Ishtar's temple was all about worshipping yourself, oh I forgot now we are onto it being about worshipping men. And appearently theres a non-Europeon Horned god in Babylonia! Who would have thunk it?
>They held up a "virgin" as the ideal that women should imitate instead of the sacred Goddess that they had always held as the most sacred image of Woman. This is essentially the state of things in the modern world.
Obviously this person is lacking on standards of the Middle East. Because of lineage and all. But I will say, that maybe she should tell that to the ancient Greeks. They had multiple virgin goddesses and its almost empowering, because they refused sex. Oh but according to this author, having sex with random people and acting like a whore is a good idea, especially in this day and age. And by all these general statements I am led to believe this person thinks all people in every historical pagan religion, primarly women, were sexually free. Thats not true in ancient Babylonia and that is certainly now true in other pagan societies.
>The two principal deities of ancient Babylon were Baal and Ishtar. Baal was the god of war and the elements and Ishtar the goddess of fertility - both human and agricultural.
No. Marduk was the top god of Babylonia, at least in it's later years. Baal is from the Northwest Semitic language, which is Ugaritic, Canaanite,Arabic, and Hebrew, both ancient and modern. The word is not Babylonian and he is not a Babylonian deity! The parts about Ishtar are somewhat correct, but... Like stated in other threads about Inanna, people are ignoring her as the goddess of war and forgetting that she is a warrior.
>The two main elements in the worship of Baal were fire and human sacrifice, usually children.
No citations for that comment at all.
>In his book The Secret of Crete, H.G. Wunderlich reports that before marriage, every woman in Babylon was required to go to the temple of Ishtar and lie with a stranger. We have a similar report from Gerhard Herm in his book, The Phoenicians (1) , where women in the Canaanite cities of Tyre, Sidon and Byblos were required to become prostitutes for a day and give themselves to foreign guests during the spring festival.
This has been debunked as false. Especially the first one.
>This festival survives today in the name of "Easter", which is derived from the word "Ishtar".
DO I have to say anything about this?
N
Check out the Temple of Ishtar and tell me how many things you find completely and utterly wrong about it.
Highlights:
>In the Temples of the old ways people would go to the temple TO BE WORSHIPPED not to worship.
This is hilarious to me, because appearently all pagans of the world didn't ever worship deities... No they thought of themselves as deities and therefore needed temples to worship themselves? does that even make any sense if one considers oneself as a god? Sounds very Levay Satanist in concept to me, and I don't remember any historical pagans believing that way at all.
>Men would come to Her Temple TO BE WORSHIPPED. Men would be welcomed and served by the Priestesses and men would represent the divine male principal, the Horned One, the Sacred Bull, The God.
Oh yeah because serving men is totally "feminist" and empowering and yeah Ishtar's temple was all about worshipping yourself, oh I forgot now we are onto it being about worshipping men. And appearently theres a non-Europeon Horned god in Babylonia! Who would have thunk it?
>They held up a "virgin" as the ideal that women should imitate instead of the sacred Goddess that they had always held as the most sacred image of Woman. This is essentially the state of things in the modern world.
Obviously this person is lacking on standards of the Middle East. Because of lineage and all. But I will say, that maybe she should tell that to the ancient Greeks. They had multiple virgin goddesses and its almost empowering, because they refused sex. Oh but according to this author, having sex with random people and acting like a whore is a good idea, especially in this day and age. And by all these general statements I am led to believe this person thinks all people in every historical pagan religion, primarly women, were sexually free. Thats not true in ancient Babylonia and that is certainly now true in other pagan societies.
>The two principal deities of ancient Babylon were Baal and Ishtar. Baal was the god of war and the elements and Ishtar the goddess of fertility - both human and agricultural.
No. Marduk was the top god of Babylonia, at least in it's later years. Baal is from the Northwest Semitic language, which is Ugaritic, Canaanite,Arabic, and Hebrew, both ancient and modern. The word is not Babylonian and he is not a Babylonian deity! The parts about Ishtar are somewhat correct, but... Like stated in other threads about Inanna, people are ignoring her as the goddess of war and forgetting that she is a warrior.
>The two main elements in the worship of Baal were fire and human sacrifice, usually children.
No citations for that comment at all.
>In his book The Secret of Crete, H.G. Wunderlich reports that before marriage, every woman in Babylon was required to go to the temple of Ishtar and lie with a stranger. We have a similar report from Gerhard Herm in his book, The Phoenicians (1) , where women in the Canaanite cities of Tyre, Sidon and Byblos were required to become prostitutes for a day and give themselves to foreign guests during the spring festival.
This has been debunked as false. Especially the first one.
>This festival survives today in the name of "Easter", which is derived from the word "Ishtar".
DO I have to say anything about this?
N
