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Post by sheshki on Sept 22, 2015 14:29:43 GMT -5
My latest project is to create a tablet from this source: P222304As you can see there is no picture of a tablet available. Yesterday i started to put together the single signs, today i made a first drawing to get an idea about possible later spacing when writing it on clay.  |
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Post by dumu ki-en-gi on Oct 9, 2015 13:54:04 GMT -5
hello But Gilgamesh name writes so |
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Post by sheshki on Oct 9, 2015 16:48:16 GMT -5
The writing of Gilgameš changed over the millennia. The form you wrote is from the Neo Assyrian Period,
the form i wrote is from the Early Dynastic Period, roughly 1500 years earlier than your version.
For more information about the writing of Gilgameš see RIA 3, 357.
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Post by dumu ki-en-gi on Oct 9, 2015 18:47:16 GMT -5
ok see that  |
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Post by sheshki on Oct 10, 2015 13:05:18 GMT -5
Well, i would really appreciate it if you could explain your postings a bit more than "see that".
I had a look at it, first line is still the Neo-Assyrian version {d}Giš-gin2-maš,
the second line may have a small error because the Giš is part of Bil3, but i don´t have the time to look through all of them
especially since i don´t really know what your intention is.
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Post by sheshki on Oct 10, 2015 14:46:10 GMT -5
From: A Manual of Sumerian Grammar by John A. Hayes   |
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Post by dumu ki-en-gi on Oct 10, 2015 15:58:34 GMT -5
 book the epic of Gilgamesh, Taha Baqer see name Gilgames |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Oct 11, 2015 11:08:23 GMT -5
Shulgi: Welcome to enenuru - it is clear to me that you have some good learning about these subjects, as you are able to write the name of Gilgamesh in Akkadian, Hittite, Arabic and so forth. It may be that discussing things in English is not as easy for you, since you do not respond clearly - but do your best  It may help us to understand where you come from and what you interests are if you make an introduction on our introductions thread - what is your interest, how did some cuneiform stuff, what more do you want to learn? enenuru.proboards.com/thread/430/introductions-sticky?page=12 As for your post Sheshki, thank you for sharing this interesting tablet with us, and for your work on it. Yes, an early mention of Gilgamesh! It comes from the Early Dynastic period, and is a dedication by Ur-Ningirima, a king of Uruk, to the deified Gilgamesh. I don't believe Ur-Ningirima's name appears in the king list, but Krebernik notes that his name appears on 2 other inscriptions from the Fara period, so very early. Hence, this is also an important indication of the religion of the period, showing that Gilgamesh was already deified in Uruk, and already receiving dedications from his successor kings from the same city. As for the versions of the name of Gilgamesh which you wrote Shulgi, these all seem basically correct to me. If you have the 2 volume work "The Babylonian Gilgamesh Epic" by Andrew George (2003) he lists all of these forms on pages 71-90. So your information is good Also, it must be explained that the early Sumerian writing of that name, which Sheshki has written in his cuneiform drawing earlier, {d}bil3-ga-mes, is indeed the form of the name Gilgamesh which appears on this Early Dynastic tablet under discussion. Although the image is not included with the CDLI entry, I managed to track down the line drawing appearing in Krebernik's original publication: For more discussion on the meaning and form of the Sumerian variations of the name Gilgamesh, please see this this thread. Best Regards. |
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Post by dumu ki-en-gi on Oct 11, 2015 13:10:53 GMT -5
hello ..us4-he2-gal2.. I from Iraq
I live close to the city of Ur
Do you know what the meaning of Gilgamesh name (local Iraqi dialect) it means palm tree leaves
Gilgamesh epic is it in himself the king of Uruk and the same gods
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It may help us to understand where you come from and what you interests are if you make an introduction on our introductions thread - what is your interest, how did some cuneiform stuff, what more do you want to learn?