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Post by xuchilpaba on Feb 24, 2008 18:54:43 GMT -5
..Now I am not a Sumerian recon. But lets say I have some nasties that are *not* Mesoamerican, are Mesopotamian, & aren't bound by the same rules and laws has anything here in the Americas. How would I go abot to get rid of them? (Because magic that works to get rid of things in on geographical area and religion don't work on every thing from other religions.) I'm curious for several reasons. Including I would like to hear some modern reconstructions of exorcisms and protection, since not everything is availiable to us in the modern era.
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Post by saharda on Feb 25, 2008 14:17:29 GMT -5
I would start by identifying what it was. This would give you some guidelines in creating a physical representation of it. You should probably make the representation out of wax so that it can be easily destroyed.
Once the representation is complete, take a shower and brush your teeth. The clean mouth and washing in water make you more ritually pure. Similar practices were used by the ancient Egyptians using Natron, but the Sumerian gods emphasize civilization, so soap and toothpaste are more appropriate.
Create a circle of flour around yourself and your representation. You should also have any devices such as a candle or other such destructive medium. In ancient times Emmer wheat was common, but baking flour should do. The purpose of this circle is to set yourself apart from the world.
Once in the circle say something to the effect that you are protected under the laws laid down by the powerful gods who set such rules. Say that you want the spirit to get out of your house, get away from you, not follow you, not attempt to reestablish contact with you, and any other way that you do not want the spirit to interact with you.
End by commanding it by heaven and by earth. This last gives your statements the weight of authority that they wouldn't otherwise have.
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Post by saharda on Feb 25, 2008 14:18:38 GMT -5
As a follow up, protective sculptures can be placed by your doorway. An Imdugud / Anzu for example was quite common.
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Post by xuchilpaba on Feb 25, 2008 15:22:01 GMT -5
Hey thanks. Some of the ritual sounds similar to some ceremonial magic. I usually "purify" rituals anyway, kinda of almost a universial thing. Oh and what if I use a picture thats already been made, is that acceptiable?
Do you know where I can find a Anzu statue? I like those types of things anyway, but this is intresting if they are protective. ;D
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Post by saharda on Mar 5, 2008 22:12:42 GMT -5
Find one? I don't know. I have to make most everything I have. I would actually suggest an Imdugud over an Anzu actually.
This brings up another point. Some demons are better against some other demons. Pazuzu for example is good against Lamashtu.
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Post by xuchilpaba on Mar 19, 2008 18:37:56 GMT -5
Oh yeah.
Well I got a picture off a site of what I believed to be bothering me. I burned it, so lets see what happens. I didn't purify anything or myself tho, however I do think I'll re-act the ritual if it doesn't work. I actually think it had some effectiveness. In fact, I might re-do it again tonite.
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Post by adante on Jan 12, 2009 14:20:39 GMT -5
Coming from a purely spiritual/magic stance, it doesn't matter where you are, spiritual rules are spiritual rules. Gods move with you when you move lands (they may change names) and so do other entities. The laws about who can do what and what will work with/against them are not land specific.
The sphere where the deities/demons/entities live goes beyond location. Its often referred to as 'down' or under. All deities/demons/entities come from this source. Its important to understand this. The essence of all magic or ritual is connected to this place as well. Take a ritual/spell from one culture and compare it to another. The base elements are the same, only the items used to symbolise certain effects are different. eg. You use an item that connects with the god you are working with. In one culture, this might be represented by wheat, in another corn, in a third it might be wool. Different item (or symbol) used, but reason for use (to connect with deity concerned) is the same. If you know the type of ritual/spell you want to do and the symbols associated with the deity you are working with, then you know everything you need to know.
Essentially, it doesn't matter if an entity is Mesopotamian or from the Andes, a banishing ritual will work. Having the symbols associated with it help, but aren't essential. The crucial part is your belief in your own power.
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