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Post by sheshki on Mar 4, 2013 15:07:24 GMT -5
Hello Maria and Scott, welcome on board. I hope you both will find the information you´re looking for.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Mar 5, 2013 23:59:34 GMT -5
Welcome to the new members! I am the organizer at enenuru and am currently working on a BA in ANE studies at Toronto. As you can probably tell we often focus on Sumerian literature or incantations here, but the board really aims to facilitate discussion between layman or academics about any aspect of Mesopotamian studies. Writing for Hurowitz would be something, his Cosmic Geography is such a unique and important work. I can't say I have much experience with Mesopotamian astronomy, but this semester we had to translate 4 texts from Hunger's SAA 8 series so that was an introduction. We had some musings about Nisaba quite a few years ago, that material can be seen here: enenuru.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=8&page=1 Feel free to inquiry or inform in any way you see fit here
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Post by mushen on Apr 22, 2013 7:45:38 GMT -5
hello, its very nice to find people who share the same interest as I, and for once feel a bit normal...well compared to the regular masses...I have always had an interest in ancient history and especially in near eastern history as its closer to home...as I live in Bahrain a country with a very deep connections to the sumerian civilization, I was always fascinated by how my country fits in the scheme of sumerian culture as dilmun...and I have many answers which I hope you might be able to help me get answered...
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Post by sheshki on Apr 22, 2013 10:47:01 GMT -5
Hi mushen, welcome on board. I hope we can help you with your questions.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Apr 25, 2013 8:08:39 GMT -5
Mushen:
Welcome to enenuru - I have never spoken to anyone from Bahrain but I am quite familiar with Dilmun from my reading on Sumerian civilization. Have you searched ETCSL yet for instances of Dilmun? Some interesting passages from some of the most important stories involving Enki mention or involve Dilmun. Scholars sometimes speculate that in the Ur III period, when much of this literature was being written down, trade connections with Dilmun were at a high - some suppose that it was to court the favor of Dilmunite traders at this time that these literary tales featured Dilmun extensively.
Also if you haven't seen it yet, you may want to find the work of Jane Moon and Robert Kilick, two archaeologists who worked together digging in Bahrain and looking for Dilmun. I don't know their work very well by they produced a book called "The Early Dilmun Settlement at Saar." Jane Moon is currently digging in southern Iraq near Ur.
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Post by Clay's Chronicler on May 30, 2013 16:58:30 GMT -5
Hi there! I'm Chronicler, from Barcelona (Catalonia). I'm a student of a bachelor's degree on History right now. In two years, I'll hope to begin my postgraduate's studies on Assyriology... if An hears my prays, of course. I'm very interested specially in the ancient Sumer, but I like the other periods too. So I'm here to have information, knowledge and a bit of fun. Do you all know how difficult is to find something like this web on the Internet? Nice to meet you!
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Post by sheshki on May 30, 2013 18:12:14 GMT -5
Hello Chronicler, welcome on board. So going by your name you are also following the path of migty Clay? Maybe this thread will keep you entertained for a bit. -----> Cuneiform diariesor ----> this oneOtherwise there is lots to explore here. Have fun! Oh and, hi, i´m Sheshki, from Germany. And in case you don´t know there is also a website attached to this board ENENURU...that reminds me that i need to fix a link there...note to self.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Jun 1, 2013 5:31:13 GMT -5
Welcome Chronicler - as rare as this board is on the internet it is also rare to find new members who truly appreciate it. So I hope you will find many interesting things here. If you have any questions or requests, feel free to contact me on the board, by private message, or by the email listed on my profile. Best of luck with studies and the pursuit of Assyriology. There have been some great scholars to come out of the Spanish territories, one being the important Sumerologist Miguel Civil. For a little perspective on entering the field you could consult the So You Want to be an Assyriologist? thread.
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Post by laura on Jul 25, 2013 18:59:07 GMT -5
Hi there. I'm new here and I see that all the intros were gotten over with in 2007 so I'm really a late comer in 2013. I am a creative writer and I got the misguided idea somehow that I could do a decent job of writing a story set in Sumer. 3-4 years later, 4,000 pages of drafts and so later, hundreds of journals, books, websites and posts later (trying to understand and absorb what Sumer is/was), I am finished writing the first book of a trilogy that has the following premise: Gilgamesh is Dumuzi returned. The myths were written by this man who had many names who was trying to escape his pursuers. That's the story in a nutshell, but its 400 pages the first book alone, and I know this sounds nuts in two sentences and the premise so minimized makes it sound like a wacko book, but my writing credentials are solid: I've got two books with University presses, lots of awards and publications, and I'm a professor at GSU -- and no, I'm not 13 years old. Beyond that, I'm hooked on Sumerian. Totally. One thing that frustrates me to no end is that the online Sumerian Dictionary by the University of Pennsylvania has not been updated since 2006. What is up with that? I believe that with my clicks and searches alone that website has got thousands of hits. I take my research seriously. With fiction, anything is possible, but you have to make it believable, and I like to have a solid background on what I'm writing, even if what I'm writing is not something scholars would agree with: at least I hope to make them think. And I hope it's not a shameless plug if I send you to my blog: www.lauravaleri.com. Glad to be hear. Plan to read hungrily and thoroughly. All that we are today is linked directly or indirectly to Sumer. That's what I believe. Ciao.
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Post by sheshki on Jul 26, 2013 17:35:40 GMT -5
Hello Laura, welcome one board. I see on your blog that you research your topics really thoroughly. I hope you find more usefull informations for your books here. We have at least one more writer on board. Here is a rough draft of his story. I personally really like it. enenuru.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ummia&action=display&thread=222Greetings Sheshki
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Jul 26, 2013 21:27:59 GMT -5
Hello Laura: Thanks for joining enenuru I am the student who signed at your blog this week. As I mentioned there, it's great to see someone working with these themes and writing something that may engage the public while at the same time capturing some of the unique insights into those far off days that assyriology has supplied. It's a similar goal we work with here at enenuru, hoping to bridge the gap between enthusiast and academia. In the case of your work, I don't think it is something scholars in the field would disagree with. They should be able to distinguish between history and historical fiction, at least I can. A problem though is that many are out of touch with their own ability to read and enjoy fiction - every summer I get an urge to revisit my novice interest in English literature or Romantic literature (the sort relating to romanticism that is) but generally feel stifled by other intellectual duties. Well if you haven't seen it yet, I suggest our orientation thread - enenuru.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=welcome&action=display&thread=431 Obviously as a member of a university faculty you likely have a much easier access to assyriological materials than some of our new members, however if you haven't seen it yet, I would suggest joining academia.edu for easy access to very recent (and in some cases forthcoming) assyriological papers. I give a description of this site as well as a list of prominent assyriologists who have uploaded their papers at this thread: enenuru.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=selfdiscombobulationetc&action=display&thread=451 Of possible interest to you, since you have taken some great notes on Dumuzi, may be Frans Wiggermann's recent paper relating to the image of this god: www.academia.edu/503952/The_Image_of_Dumuzi Best regards, and write with any questions/requests - Bill
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Post by jectu2geanaba on Jul 29, 2013 11:54:22 GMT -5
Hello, I'm ĝeštu2-ge-a-na-ba (the username requirements kind of messed it up). I'm relatively new to Assyrology, but I've been very interested in it for quite a while. I'm especially interested in Sumerian culture and linguistics, and am about halfway through "A Descriptive Grammar of Sumerian" by A.H. Jagersma. I hope to increase my knowledge of this field of study by participating in this community.
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Post by sheshki on Jul 29, 2013 15:35:21 GMT -5
Hello ĝeštu2-ge-a-na-ba,
welcome on board. Hope you find interesting stuff here that helps you somehow.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 8, 2013 8:26:27 GMT -5
Heyy ĝeštu2-ge-a-na-ba: Sorry for my delayed response, welcome to enenuru Always good to see someone with an interest in learning Sumerian. As you can see from my posts over the years I have been intrigued by Sumerian literature for a long time but only just started learning Sumerian language recently. Jagersma's grammar is an amazing work! So far as I have heard, he works in some huge library somewhere but was trained in Assyriology and Sumerian in Leiden, an ANE department that is quite prestigious. Have you attempted to learn cuneiform as well or do you have any plans to study cuneiform?
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Post by jectu2geanaba on Aug 11, 2013 10:01:23 GMT -5
Have you attempted to learn cuneiform as well or do you have any plans to study cuneiform? I was planning to get my Sumerian (if I can, the Ur III and Lagash II dialects) up to a good level with the Latin script before beginning with cuneiform, but it seems that cuneiform from that time is harder to find on the web than the later cuneiform scripts such as Akkadian and Assyrian cuneiform. Do you know a place where I would be able to find cuneiform signs from these periods?
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Post by sheshki on Aug 11, 2013 17:48:59 GMT -5
We used D.Snell´s book " Workbook of cuneiform signs" which lists the 110 most used signs, but only the neo-Assyrian versions. You can find some LagashII and UrIII examples hereEnter the page and go to "Signlist", when the signlist is open look on the right side of the table. There ares some bigger gaps in these lists, but you could go to CDLI and search there for the missing signs...
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Post by amndasvn on Aug 21, 2013 11:55:33 GMT -5
Hello, I'm new here (just joined). My name is Amanda. I found this site while searching for information about Asag. I'm interested in daemons and deities of all sorts and how or why they were created. There are some interesting threads here I look forward to reading. Thank you for this resource and to anyone who has spent time looking up these histories and sharing them publicly. It's greatly appreciated.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 21, 2013 14:36:50 GMT -5
Hello Amanda: Thanks for joining enenuru - well, if your specifically interested in early demons, then Mesopotamian literature is about as early as it gets. In this culture demons appear most frequently in the corpus of incantation texts; these incantations are the texts of the professional exorcist whose job it was to expel demons (among other things) from the body of the sick. For some reason not yet fully understood, demons do not make a large appearance in the world's earliest incantation texts (that is, those from Early Dynastic Mesopotamia, circa 2600 BC). Generally these texts are most concerned with snakes, scorpians, and general sickness.. although a mention or two of the Udug demon occurs. Demons of various sorts, and in a loose group of 7 begin appearing in the incantation texts of the Ur III period (circa 2150 BC), and remain quite consistent for the next 2000 years in these texts. We have a thread which gives the English translations of a good number of the Ur III period incantations: enenuru.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=recite&action=display&thread=61 Feel free to ask questions on any thread, or to message or email me directly with questions about Mesopotamian studies, or demons.
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Post by ummia-inim-gina on Aug 21, 2013 17:37:06 GMT -5
It had been a little while since I visited Enenuru and boy am I pleasantly surprised. Three new members introductions in the past few months (and one of them is also a historical fiction author!) I can’t wait to check that blog out. Welcome to the board everyone! There has been several interesting sounding posts recently and I am excited about there being new early dynastic incantations pending in the future. I’m very glad I decided to check the board today. I can see I have a lot of reading to catch up on now.
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Post by Laura Valeri on Aug 21, 2013 18:10:19 GMT -5
Hey everyone, thanks for the great links. I'll definitely check them out. Alternatively, here is a post I worked on and I'm only now starting to feel happy with. If you have any suggestions or corrections or responses I'd really appreciate someone who really knows what they're talking about having a look. I don't mind being humbled, even if it can hurt. lauravaleri.com/2013/08/17/on-gilgamesh-and-dumuzi/
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Post by enkur on Aug 25, 2013 7:59:19 GMT -5
I'm not an Assyriologist but for me the essential thing in treating the ancient myths is what could be termed as "true sense", or the ability to "channel" by abstaining from the temptation to speculate in one's cognate terms, often based on predilections, were they personal or collective. The mythic "reality" is to be accepted as it is. The interpretation should come later. If one hurries to see what one wants to see in a certain myth one will surely find it, and even be able to prove it, but an uncertainty always remains somewhere deep in oneself. The most difficult thing is that sooner or later, if one is serious enough as a researcher, one confronts the need of knowing the language of the myth, that ancient and long dead thing, which is an universe of its own, and all its connections with our cognate terms come out to be mere approximations.
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Post by symbology on Dec 18, 2013 11:40:03 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, good to be here. I'm interested in Sumerian symbolism and cuneiform, particularly in the Jemdet Nasr, Susa, Proto-Elamite and Dilmun phases of settlement.
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Post by sheshki on Dec 18, 2013 21:53:32 GMT -5
Welcome on board! Hope we can help you and exchange informations and ideas with you!
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Post by harpist42 on Mar 2, 2014 18:58:35 GMT -5
Hi all! I am totally ignorant in comparison to many of you! I am here because I have recently became very intrigued by Ancient Mesopotamian religion and the culture that it was cradled in. I am of an "eclectic pagan" persuasion and I may be one of the few here that is such. But I hope to learn and become more enlightened in regards to this religion.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Mar 4, 2014 5:51:51 GMT -5
Hello Harpist42: Welcome to enenuru. As long as you have come to learn I'm sure you will fit in fine as a major intent of the board is to provide information to the public. Feel free to ask questions or to direct questions to me directly (contact options are available on my profile). While enenuru can help with academic sorts of information, for answers from a religious perspective see also: templeofsumer.freeforums.net/
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Post by harpist42 on Mar 6, 2014 1:17:25 GMT -5
Thank you much! I will definitely check out the Temple of Sumer forums! I am looking forward to learning what I can! It does seem quite daunting though.. haha! I've recently amassed several books that I am slowly trying to get through, but it is a very... complex thing.. the study of these cultures. haha!
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Post by jotapetrucci on Jun 20, 2014 16:14:45 GMT -5
Hello everybody!
It feels a little embarrassing to introduce myself among so many academics. My name is Jota. I'm from Madrid (Spain). I'm the typical guy how is looking for a translation for a cuneiform tattoo and found this place while googling. Hope I dont bother you too much with my request and I would like to thank you and congrats for this forum and the community you've created. It's always nice yo find people so committed and willing to help in such interesting matters.
Greetings!
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Jun 20, 2014 18:45:34 GMT -5
Welcome to the board Jota -
You are welcome to ask anything you would like here on Mesopotamian subjects, including cuneiform tattoos. This board was made to help lay people (non-academics) get information from the academic world, and some of our best posters are non-academic. I will look for your cuneiform text / tattoo. Best Regards, Bill
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Post by sheshki on Jun 21, 2014 19:22:04 GMT -5
Hello jotapetrucci, welcome on board! I hope we can help you. Cuneiform tattoos are the best Hopefully, not too many people will discover this... Sheshki
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Post by jotapetrucci on Jun 22, 2014 5:46:41 GMT -5
wow thanks. You guys are the best Indeed sheshki, cuneiform tattoos rules \m/ See you around!
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