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Post by sheshki on Feb 14, 2015 13:00:42 GMT -5
Here is my second tablet i try to translate: P221536EDIII tablet from Adab since this is an administrative tablet in list form, but only the first line has something listable (lu 2) i assume that every line lists men, since i´m not sure i´ve put them in brackets. ob.c1 | 1(u@c) la2 1(aš@c) lu2 | (10-1) 9 men |
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| e2-sar | for the ESAR |
| | 4(aš@c) {d}aš8-gi4 | 4 (men) for Ašgi |
| | 4(aš@c) e2-sahar | 4 (men) for the E-Sahar | E2 = temple, great house, sahar = earth, dust, soil | | 2(aš@c) {d}inanna | 2 (men) for Inanna |
| | 3(aš@c) {d}en-ki | 3 (men) for Enki |
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| 4(aš@c)# e2#-dam# | 4 (men) for the Edam | E2-dam-House of the spouse, probably part of the Bagara in Lagaš, could have been the centre of the cult of Bau. RIA6/421 |
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Post by sheshki on Feb 14, 2015 19:27:28 GMT -5
ob.c2 | 1(aš@c) {d}dara3-U-{d}en-lil2-gar | 1 (man) Dara-u-enlilgar? | Probably a personal name
| | 1(aš@c) {d}numun?-e2-si | 1 (man) for Numun-e-si | Probably a personal name | | 1(aš@c) an-ne2 | 1 (man) for An | good example for that An is not written with a determinative.
| | 8(aš@c) eš3 tur-tur | 8 (men) for the small shrine | TUR - young child, tur-tur - little ones (link), small (link), i3-tur i3-tur-tur i3-gal2 ama-a-ni He became smaller and smaller (link) There are also personal names with tur-tur:lu2-tur-tur-ra, dub-sar (link), ur-tur-tur (link) and others.
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Post by sheshki on Feb 14, 2015 20:04:16 GMT -5
rev.c1 | e2 {d}utu# | temple of Utu |
| | u4 2(u@c) la2 3(asz@c) | ?(20 - 3) 17 (men) | i don´t know how to translate the u4 here.
| | GAN2 {gesz}gigir2 | ?
| no idea how to make sense of this...maybe it is a chariot for field work? GAN2: surface, field area, plots, field, e2 {gesz}gigir2-ra - a coach-house , {gesz}gigir2: chariot |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Feb 22, 2015 11:04:46 GMT -5
Sheshki - Thank you again for continuing your exploration of ED tablets. This is also of good help to me because it forces me to review and learn more ED material, an activity I am quite agreeable about of course. Must make that sub-board as planned. Anyway about your above work excellent form, I like the layout and it is even visually appealing! I must re-learn how to do tables here. More importantly, the translations are sensible and accurate overall. So let me see if I can contribute to the work on this particular tablet. Here are a few ideas: 1. For the obverse line 1, I am not sure if it should be understood (10-1) 9, or (10 + 1) 11 perhaps? I don't read administrative texts very often so it seems just as likely one way as the other to me at the moment. 2. Nice use of the RlA you are putting that resource to good use! 3. Obverse col. 2 line 1: Although CDLI gives {d}dara3-U-{d}en-lil2-gar I think it should actually be read (d)bara-(d)en-lil2-gar . How did I come to that? First, working with the idea that this was a personal name, I searched my resources for anything on the onomasticon of the Early Dynastic period. I always think of Jakob Andersson's new "Kingship in the Early Mesopotamian Onomasticon" when this topic comes up, then I remember that I have never found a pdf version of this. I then read over Krebernik's discussion of Sumerian personal names in AOAT 226, he breaks down the fundamental forms of Sumerian names and gives a history of scholarship. I searched for a work that gives a comprehensive list of all known Sumerian names (what I really want), but it seems like such a list does not exist (scholars list the names appearing in a given body of texts but not all known Sumerian names). Finally, in desperation, I googled "Enlil-gar" and "Enlilgar". This resulted in some CDLI hits mentions Bara-Enlil-gar, who is in fact a god. Comparing the cuneiform signs, it seems clear that bara is a better reading than dara3. So for those academics out there who thumb their noses at using google for research, I am going to keep using google thanks very much. Prof. Frayne noted this about Bara-Enlil-gar: A deity found in Old Akkadian tablets, probably from Adab, a city south east of Nippur, likely the tutelary deity of a settlement near Adab, a city south east of Nippur. Sumerian name means “Dais Established by Enlil.” (Maiocchi 2009: #84, #106, #141, #314; Visicato and A. Westenholz 2010: #149, #209, #212, #213, #216, # 356)
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Post by sheshki on Feb 22, 2015 11:41:47 GMT -5
Thank you for your words and contribution. I have a lot of fun with these translations. Started a new one this morning. Concerning the "la 2" issue, i checked cdli search for la 2, and all the entries i found seem to indicate that it is a minus. I did not look through all the search results tho, because "2738 instances found in 18612 text artifacts". See here P392642 2(u) la 2 1(asz@45) / 19. P392638 1(u) la 2 1(asz@45) tug 2 usz-bar/ 9 weaver garments P392636 zi-ga u 4 3(u) la 2 1(asz@45)-kam/ credited on the 29th day. So i guess if there is nothing between the numbers they add up, and la 2 subtracts. Oh, and, tables are quite easy now, as long as you fill them in in the "preview" view.
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