D NE.DAG

[dumu ki-en-gi]

commemorative inscription from Uruk, authored by the princess Megirimta, daughter of Lugalkisalsi, lugal of Uruk


cdli P222895

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1. {d}NE-DAG!

2. me-girimx(|A.BU.HA.DU|)-ta

3. dumu lugal-kisal-si

4. tu-da

5. dam

6. mu-ni-hur-sag

7. a mu-ru


the deity NE-DAG
Megirimta
 daughter by Lugalkisalsi

begotten
wife

 Muniḫursag
 dedicated it (this bowl)

I have several questions about the gods and about the name of the Lugalkisalsi / Lugalzagesi


here it is written ....lugal-kisal-si but in P222618  written lugal-za3-ge-si

I am writing formulas
1-Lugalkisalsi

2-Lugalzagesi

      

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Shulgi:




This is an excellent post, thanks very much for your questions This translation you provide is pretty good! How do you get this translation, or where did you get this translation? Most scholars call this text "Lugal-kisal-si 3".




About the god NE.DAG - this god is discussed in RlA (Reallexikon der Assyriologie) #9, page 206, by Manfield Krebernik. According to Krebernik, NE.DAG is known from the Early Dynastic period, mainly. NE.DAG occurs in an Early Dynastic godlist from Fara, and another godlist from Abu Salabikh. The god is also known from Early Dynastic incantation texts, and he is called dumu-NUN (or, son of Eridu), and so he can be associated with the god Enki and his circle. Along with the ancient healing goddess Ningirima, NE.DAG seems to play a role in early incantation texts, perhaps as a helper. Krebernik says that the only time the name of the god appears outside of incantations or godlists, is the inscription you have shared with us, Lugal-kisal-si 3, written for Megirimta.


Here is an example of an Early Dynastic incantation which mentions NE.DAG (VAT 12597, CDLI P010644, it was translated by M. Krebernik BFE #2, and it was posted on enenuru here on Oct. 2 2012). Unfortunately, because the tablet is broken and there is not very much description, we do not learn very much about this god from this text.







Early Dynastic incantation VAT 12597:

EN.'E-nu-ru


nu-MU/MU(dah)


dnin-MUš.DU.HA.A `mu'-gir3-gir3


ub anše 4-ba


gigir ab50 ba


dNE.DAG


e2-DAR na


ha-mu-ta-TAG


KA.UD-du11-ga-dnin-MUš.DU.HA.a








a) Ningirima slipped into…(?)

b) By its 4 corners are donkeys
By its 50 (window-) openings are carts.

(“Another possibility: …on the donkeys by its 4 corners, on the carts by its 50 (window) openings.”)


c) d.NE.DAG let from the… -House (perhaps: colorful, gun3) the bann emerge.

[dumu ki-en-gi]

Thanks I am trying to understand about King Is he the same a man Umma

[goat]

That's not an incantation I could ever make much sense of.

NE.DAG also appears in the SF1 god-list:

4 gods beginning with NE from col 9:

21. {d}NE-GI
22. {d}NE
23. {d}NE-DAG
24. {d}NE-LA2

Only two other lines in SF 1 have gods with the DAG sign:

col 4 line 9. [{d}]x-dag-ga

col6 line 23. {d}nin-DAG

[us4-he2-gal2]

Ah excellent, thank you goat!







As for Lugal-kisal-si and Lugal-zag-esi, yes I believe these are two different kings. Some time before Sargon of Akkad took over Sumer, Lugal-kisal-si ruled over Uruk and Ur. Then, a little after Lugal-kisal-si, Lugal-zag-esi become ruler of Umma, then he took over Uruk, Ur. When Lugal-zag-esi was ruling, Sargon of Akkad rose up and took over.



Below I have added a chart from the book "Royal Statuary of Early Dynastic Mesopotamia" (2014) by Marchesi and Marchetti. On this chart, you can see the different kings from different cities in the EDIIIb period (before Sargon of Akkad). You can see in Uruk, first comes Lugal-kisal-si, then a little after, Lugal-zag-esi rises first in Umma, then also he takes over Uruk and Ur.

[sheshki]

According to RIA7 there were two known persons with the name Lugal-kisal-si, one was king of Uruk, son of Lugal-ki-niš(e)-dudu. His name is read as Lugal-gipare-si.
The other one was son of ḪAR.TU from Ešnunna. He did not have any titles.

Lugalzagesi was Ensi of Umma, king of Uruk and 'King of the Land', ca. 2350 B. C.
He was defeated and captured by Sargon of Akkade who succeeded him as 'King of the
Land'.

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hello.....
I found this also P222896 

1. {d}en-lil2
2. lugal kur-kur-ra#
3. lugal#-kisal-si#
gal] unu#[{ki}-ga-ke4]
1.  For Enlil,
2. king of all the lands,
3. by Lugalkisalsi,
4. king of Uruk

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 about dNE.DAG

The god dNE.DAG = "torch" ?
The NE.DAG forms part of personal names attested in a few different writings, found at Fara, Ur and Zabala:



– amar-NE.DAG

– amar-d BIL2.DAG

– amar-d NE.DAG

– amar-NE.DAG.DAG .

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about the king of Uruk Lugalkisalsi, I found this text  can see P431223



1. {d}en-lil
For Enlil,
2. lugal kur-kur-ra
king of all the lands,
3. lugal-kisal-si
by Lugalkisalsi,
4. dumu-sag
the first-born son
5. lugal-ki-gen-ne2-du7-du7
of Lugalkigenedudu,
6. lugal unu{ki}-ga-ke4
king of Uruk
7. lugal uri5{ki}-ma-ka-ke4
and king of Ur—
8. lugal-kisal-si
Lugalkisalsi,
9 lugal unu{ki}-ga-ke4
king of Uruk
10. lugal uri5{ki}-ma-ke4
and king of Ur,
11. nam-ti-la-ni-sze3
for his life
12. {d}en-lil2
to Enlil
13. lugal-ni
his master
14. a mu-na-ru
he dedicated it (this vessel).

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Lugal-kisal-si king of Uruk
Lugalkisalsi the first-born son Lugalkigenedudu king of kish,he ruled over a city Uruk extended his rule over the southern city Ur, his royal title was "king of Uruk (and) king of Ur (lugal unuki.ga lugal uri2 ki-ma)" . not mentioned on the King List; but then again, not all of the known Sumerian kings are included on the list. The surviving artifact of his reign as Vessel ,Bowl, Foundation canephor and bust from Adab .

see text Foundation canephor/ Vorderasiatisches Museum

For Namma
2. dam an-ra
1. d namma 
the wife of An,
3. lugal-kisal-si
Lugalkisalsi,
4. lugal unu ki-ga
king of Uruk
5. lugal uri5 ki-ma
and king of Ur,
6. e2 d namma
the temple of Namma
7. mu-du3
he built.


his mother Ninbanda we know that from Vessel in British Museum

1. d nanna
To Nanna,
2. a-nu-zu
Anuzu,
3. dam-gar3-ra
the merchant,
4. [nam-ti]
for the life
5. lugal-ki-gen-ne2-du7-du7
of Lugalkigenedudu
6. lugal kiš ki-a
king of Kish,
7. nam-ti
for the life
8. nin-banda3-še3
of Ninbanda,
9. nam-ti
and for the life
10. lugal-kisal-[si-še3]
of Lugalkisalsi

11. a mu-[na-ru]

dedicated it

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Hello dumu ki-en-gi:




Some nice notes on this very obscure ED Sumerian king I think you have discussed the important texts relating to this - I don't know what other information there is about him, but there can't be much else. In the Reallexikon der Assyriologie, volume 7, D. Edzard discusses Lugalkisalsi (who he calls, according to an old reading, Lugal-gipar-si):

Lugal-gipar_x-si, präsarg.
König von Uruk, Sohn des Lugal-ki-niš(e)-dudu*, bezeugt durch 5 Inschriften
aus Uruk und Nippur. Er nennt sich einmal "König von Uruk, König von Ur" (Nr.3:
4-5)· [Lesung g.iparx statt kisal laut M. Krebernik. ]
Zu einem Enkel des L. s. J. S. Cooper, OrAnt. 23 (1984) 160f., und Steible/
Behrens, L. 2.
Die Interpolation des L. in der Sum. Königsliste* durch Th.Jacobsen (AS 11 [1939]
100f.) hat sich nicht bestätigt.

The important observations from this comment are as follows:
i) Lugal-kisal-si is an Early Dynastic king of Uruk, son of Lugal-ki-niše-dudu (also spelled: Lugalkišaredudûd)
ii) Lugal-kisal-si is attested in 5 texts altogether, which come from Nippur and Uruk.
iii) He is called the "King of Uruk, king of Ur" in text 3, lines 4-5.
iv) A grandson of Lugal-kisal-si is mentioned in a text treated by J.S. Cooper (OrAnt. 23, 1984, p. 160.)
v) Although Thorkild Jacobsen seems to read Lugal-kisal-si somewhere in the Sumerian Kinglist, Edzard states this is not confirm.






Some further notes from "Royal Statuary of Early Dynastic Mesopotamia" (2014) by Marchesi and Marchetti.

i) Page 125 note 260: The authors note that the kings of Uruk before Lugalkisalsi, including his father Lugal-ki-niše-dudu, all bore the title "King of Kish". However, Lugalkisalsi himself did not bear this title - they suggest that "this title apparently fell into disuse, presumably because it was considered obsolete."

ii) P.144: The grandson of Lugalkisalsi, Diᵓutûk, must have lived in the Sargonic period, after the coming of Sargon, because his statue mentions a NIG2.PA.TE.SI "viceroy" . The position only existed in the Sargonic period and later. The statue was treated in Spycket 1981: 85-86 n. 211 pl. 56.

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Enshakushana

en-ša3-kuš2-an-na

Enshakushana king of Uruk son of Elilin, who styled himself "lord of Sumer and king of the Land" king of Uruk," and boasted of a victory over Kish . We know that he could not have ruled too much earlier than Sargon and so must have followed Lugalkisalsi.
Enshakushana, who apparently exercised hegemony over most of Sumer for a short period of time before Lugalzagesi,that the circumstances of Enshakushana’s end are unknown.

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The SKL has the following item for the Uruk Dynasty II :

In Uruk, En-šag-kuš-ana became king;
He was 60 years .
Lugal-kiniše-dudu reigned for 120 years.
Argandea ruled for 7 years.
3 King; they ruled 187 years.
Then the Uruk was defeated, and the kingdom was taken to Ur.


Enshakušanna has conquered the cities of the countries of Hamazi, Akad, Kish and Nippur (later confirming the hegemony on the whole Sumer).
He adopted the name in Sumerian en ki-an-gi lugal kalam-ma,
which can be translated as "the Lord of the Sumer and the King of all countries "and it could later correspond to the title of lugal ki-en-gi kiuri ("The King of Sumer and Akad"), who eventually marked it the kingdom of Mesopotamia in its entirety.
Now it is known that he is Enshakušanna son Elili from Ur. P222884

Elulu from the Other Dynasties Ur was once considered his father, but this is inaccurate because of chronological impossibility. There is a printed vase devoted to the god Enlil to mark his victory over Enbi-Ištar from the Rain and his return of devotional goods robbed from the temple.

P431228

For Enlil,king of all the lands,
Enšakušana,lord of Sumer and king of the nation,
when the godscommanded him, Kiš the destroyed,
and Enbi-Ištar,the king of Kiš,he captured.
The Man of Akšak and the Man of Kiš,
when both cities had been destroyed,
...
...
(their ...) into their hands he returned to them,
but their statues, their silver and lapis lazuli, and their timber and possessions to Enlil for Nippurhe dedicated.

Not everyone agrees that he was the first king of the Second Uruk Dynasty.