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Post by hukkana on Oct 7, 2016 10:49:58 GMT -5
I've been going through the An Anum again and at the very beginning of Tablet 5, you have a series of 10 Gods ending with the phrase "10 am3 dumu-[meš] [d.lugal-ban3-da]". The gods are as follows
TUR2 X SAL(ši-la)-kur u4-nam-edin-na ŠEŠ-AN-tur numun-ab2-šar2-ra udud-nam-gi6 (gi)-me-mu) e-rib nunuz-ab2-ba en-menme-en-nun-si-na [x]-te-nun-si-na MES-GAR-X°x°-ra
Now I don't know the language, as you all know I'm at a bit of a disadvantage because of that, but I do know from experience that "dumu" means "son"/child. I've never seen any mention of a person other than Gilgamesh being called a son of Lugalbanda.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Oct 16, 2016 19:51:00 GMT -5
Hukannu:
Yes interesting, I love the godlists they really are an exceptional view into Mesopotamian theological thinking. Firstly, I refer to Litke and his 1998 book on the god list AN:Anum to gain more perspective. The entry you cite, which Lugalbanda and his family, fits with the general structure of this godlist as desribed by Litke on pg. 6:
"As each name appears in the list, it is followed by whatever alternate names that deity may have possessed. Usually, the name of the spouse of the god is given next; and after this, a list is given of any sons or daughters or servants the god may have had."
Further confirmation comes with Litke's note to line 4 which reads "...The list of "the 10 sons of Lugalbanda" begins with this line." In line 14 yes it reads: 10 am3 dumu.[meš] [lugal.bàn.da] - this is 10 and what seems to be the 3rd copula am 'is,are,was,were' .. in classic Sumerian grammar, the am would come at the end of the the clause so perhaps: 10 dumu.meš lugalbanda.a(k).am : 'Are the 10 sons of Lugalbanda'. But this godlist is fairly late, and so the notion of Sumerian grammar is not perfect or authentic. The question becomes whether the notion of Sumerian theology is authentic or whether all 10 sons of Lugalbanda are assigned retrospectively to Lugalbanda. I think the best bet at this point may be to consult the Realexikon Assyriogique and see if any of these sons is attested in older literature.
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Post by sheshki on Oct 19, 2016 11:52:14 GMT -5
I´m looking through RIA 7 and 9 at the moment. RIA 7/118 Die kanonische Serie beginnt mit dem Götterpaar die Taf. V, nennt 10 Kinder und dienstbare Gottheiten. tablet V mentions ten children of Lugalbanda and Ninsun and subservient divinities
RIA 9/502 ...letzterer folgt auch in der jungen Version (Litke 1998, v 1-22) auf Lugalbanda, N., ihre 10 Kinder und ihren Hofstaat. ... Ninsun, her ten children and court.
So maybe the names you have here are the names of said divinities/court and the "10 am3 dumu" part is mentioning the fact that there were 10 children, but without names.
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Post by hukkana on Oct 19, 2016 12:44:45 GMT -5
I´m looking through RIA 7 and 9 at the moment. RIA 7/118 Die kanonische Serie beginnt mit dem Götterpaar die Taf. V, nennt 10 Kinder und dienstbare Gottheiten. tablet V mentions ten children of Lugalbanda and Ninsun and subservient divinities RIA 9/502 ...letzterer folgt auch in der jungen Version (Litke 1998, v 1-22) auf Lugalbanda, N., ihre 10 Kinder und ihren Hofstaat. ... Ninsun, her ten children and court. So maybe the names you have here are the names of said divinities/court and the "10 am 3 dumu" part is mentioning the fact that there were 10 children, but without names. I'd think not because right after mentioning the ten, after a series of ten names, it mentions Lugal-Hegal as the Vizier of Lugalbanda and Lugal-Anna as the Vizier of Ninsun.
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Post by hukkana on Oct 29, 2016 12:40:32 GMT -5
So anyone have any possible interpretation about what any of these names could mean ?
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