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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Apr 30, 2008 0:24:27 GMT -5
Thread Orientation: With fish so slippery as these, one's net must be world wide, oh, ***horrible*** pun oh my....*gag* - on with the Spam!!!
Attn. Membership:
I have below pasted a standardized invitation which I hope will serve as template for efforts to "spread the word" about enenuru.net ; Do I intend to do so? Oh yes!
To bring the community ever larger and broader is itself fundamental, and in so far as participating members have grown here in the last year, so to is growth in expansion and in fresh challenges. To move forward, enenuru.net is in part intended to make this group more accessible and visible to the ANE community at large, and I will make it sooo visible. I would certainly appreciate anyone who might spread the below invitation to a relevant or semi-relevant community/webpage, and post the url below as I have done. Cheers.
Standard Invite:
Enenuru.net is an independent project with focuses on Sumerian and Mesopotamian magic, religion, and culture and on relevant academic apparatus. Admittedly, reading in these areas can at times be dense and tract-less, and here we aim to provide an explanatory material and systematized resource for the student, seeker, and for those who speak similar enthusiasm. Enenuru.net is currently in development, and as we work, we take the chance to broaden scope, accept suggestion or criticism, and invite contribution from interested parties. We hope you will give or take from our efforts as they progress in form and function, towards a true study aid for these rare subjects. Regards.
P.S> We know that as of now enenuru.net is just taking shape, and is in need of further content - we launch now so that those truly interest might see it grow and of those, the smallest number (yet most valuable) may possibly contribute. We inevitably grow in any event.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Apr 30, 2008 3:02:30 GMT -5
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on May 8, 2008 19:22:14 GMT -5
Mein Freund Frank and also Martin have translated our invite into German: Huur Tu at Philadelphia Folk
Enenuru.net ist ein unabhängiges Projekt, welches sich auf die sumerische und mesopotamische Magie, Religion und Kultur sowie auf den relevanten wissenschaftlichen Apparat konzentriert. Zugegebenermaßen kann die Lektüre dieser Gefilde manchmal beschwerlich sein: wir versuchen hier, erklärendes Material und systematisierte Quellen für Studierende, Suchende und solche, die ähnlichen Enthusiasmus teilen, bereit zu stellen. Enenuru.net ist gegenwärtig in der Entwicklung. Während wir daran arbeiten, nutzen wir die Chance, den Fokus zu erweitern. Wir akzeptieren Vorschläge und Kritik und laden Interessenten zu eigenen Beiträgen ein. Wir hoffen, dass Ihnen unsere Anstrengungen von Nutzen sind, wobei sie sich in Form und Funktion hin ständig weiterentwickeln, sodass eine wahrhafte Hilfe für diesen Studiengegenstand entsteht. Mit beste Grüßen.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on May 11, 2008 20:43:06 GMT -5
Ahh, good sentiments Naomi! ;] Thanks. Well, I'm the sort who tends grumble even while my enthusiasm is un-flinching. I'm very appreciative of the little active core of people at Enenuru, even as I never fail to appreciate how winding the path is to add even a single new active contributer.
Such as it is, it ill have to do.
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Post by sheshki on May 20, 2008 7:36:34 GMT -5
hello all,
just want to point you at some changes at enenuru.net. i added naomis art today to the gallery section. also there is the first official enenuru wallpaper.i hope you enjoy it.
du-mu-ug-tum
sheshki
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on May 22, 2008 22:08:09 GMT -5
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Post by sheshki on Jun 6, 2008 10:21:40 GMT -5
hello all,
just want to mention that some updates took place at enenuru.net
-maqlu section moved to cuneiform magic section, -gallery updated 1 picture by naomi added, 2 pictures by us4-he2-gal2 added -left navigation bar changed -board section added -sumerian history section added (still under construction)
end of transmission
sheshki
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Post by xuchilpaba on Jun 6, 2008 21:15:14 GMT -5
I thought the Ishtar group was bad enough until I read this on Ninmah description: " Ninmah (also known as Ninharsag, Hathor, Great Mother)is the daughter of Anu (King of Nibiru the 10th planet in our solar system), sister and lover of Enki/Ea and Enlil/Yahweh. Ninmah's the mother of both her brothers' children. With her beloved Enki, and nephew Thoth/Ningishzidda/Quetzalcoatl, Ninmah co-created Homo Sapiens and thus became the MOTHER of HUMANITY. In her womb she bore the first human; a hybrid combining four essential elements; egg from a primative female, sperm of father Enki, clay of the Earth (Gaia)and womb of an Anunnaki Goddess (Ninmah). All prior attempts to create a viable species capable of carrying sentient souls had failed. Homo Sapiens succeeded with the genetic material of man, god and planet. Listen to Ninmah's story. Ninmah, peacemaker, voice of reason, Mother of humanity who loves us unconditionally, longs to be heard. Her pespective, lost in the patriarchy, overwritten by women-fearing religions, survives through those who chose to remember. She speaks to us now through the ages, across time and space through those who provide a voice. Listen to her story. Be her voice. She has much to say. Her time is NOW." So its a mish mash of various religions whose gods have little in common w/ each other and Ninmah is in place of Gaia in Neopaganism. Frankly, a Aztec god has no bussiness there and this is not a ANE group at all. Its a fluffy Neopagan one.
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Post by sheshki on Jun 20, 2008 10:27:43 GMT -5
enenurians, the signlist is updated. i added signs (Period EDIII) from "Cuneiform Series, Vol. II: Inscriptions from Adab by Daniel David Luckenbill" ...more will follow. sheshki www.enenuru.net
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Post by sheshki on Jun 24, 2008 4:49:58 GMT -5
enenurians, sumerian history section is now up. also added some more cuneiforms from Cuneiform Series, Vol. II: Inscriptions from Adab by Daniel David Luckenbill" this time signs from periods old akkadian and lagashIIwww.enenuru.netdoes anyone know if this is a god/if yes,which one
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Post by sheshki on Jun 25, 2008 10:11:56 GMT -5
enenurians, Signlist updated from "Cuneiform Series, Vol. II: Inscriptions from Adab by Daniel David Luckenbill" urIII signs added -------------- naomi, ng is not a bad god
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Post by sheshki on Jun 29, 2008 17:34:41 GMT -5
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Jun 30, 2008 16:04:59 GMT -5
Hey All: First to address your question above Sheshki - I am not sure if the cuneiform you posted above is a god. However I'm betting we will be able to produce an answer with the line of inquiry you are pursueing.. If anyone hasn't seen Sheshki's cuneiform noun efforts (he is finding the cuneiform signs for a) Royal Names b) Divine Names c) City Names) keep an eye out. This stuff is fantastic! It really brings the amateur closer to the domain of the experts, and it will go wonderfully with enenuru.net explorations of dynasties and rulers, and also presentation of the God-lists. So stay tuned. I am here leaving a brief note on a new section as well, which is a branch of the "Sumerian History" section at enenuru.net - that is b) the Sumerian King list. I have in this section perused much of the key material reviewed on the threads here on the board, and added some more from a few books I have out from the library. Some of the content will be familiar therefore, but presented in a different format, somewhat more refined and summed for the newcomer. (more or less.) Some secitons still under construction. Links to be updated soon in Sumerian history section. www.enenuru.net/html/skl/sklmenu.htm
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Post by sheshki on Jul 16, 2008 15:31:56 GMT -5
enenurians, a small update took place at www.enenuru.netsignslist : some urIII signs added sumerian history-->notes on kings: amar-sin added over and out sheshki
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Post by sheshki on Jul 19, 2008 18:01:15 GMT -5
enenurians, have you all noticed the nice new hat of our master an update took place at www.enenuru.netSumerian History->Sumerian and Mesopotamian Kinglists -> Significance of the Kings of Kisha very interesting article written by the man with the hat
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Post by sheshki on Jul 20, 2008 21:41:28 GMT -5
enenurians, we pimped the "significance of the kings of kish" page up. 100% of the people who ve seen it yet say it looks damn cool....right ush? www.enenuru.net
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Post by sheshki on Jul 20, 2008 22:08:26 GMT -5
This is my celebration post for my second star
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Post by sheshki on Jul 31, 2008 12:53:34 GMT -5
Enenurians, an update took place at the "notes on kings" section www.enenuru.net sumerian history-->notes on kings If someone of you got additional informations for the kings listed there please let us know... Rulers listed so far: Mesanepada, e2-igi-nim-pa-e3(e-she-ul-pa-ud-du), Eanatum, Enanatum, Entemena, Urukagina, Ennua (not sure if this was a king), Medurba, Mesalim, Urlugaledinanna, Gudea, Naram-Sin, Shulgi, Amar-Sin, Shu-Sin
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Post by sheshki on Aug 6, 2008 7:53:21 GMT -5
Enenurians, two new entries at the notes on kings section. would you please welcome king Ur-Nanshe and king Akurgal.
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Post by sheshki on Aug 7, 2008 17:41:14 GMT -5
oh, and, welcome tif. hope you find interesting stuff here
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 10, 2008 8:21:41 GMT -5
Sheshki: I love these plaque and relief readings! These are things often referred to in Sumerological commentaries, yet are rarely pictured - and never is it really explained what signs say what. So your efforts very interesting to an enthusiast This week we are looking at the Ur-Nanshe's as you say, and as such we should maybe make Lagash the first dynasty to be detailed at enenuru.net? For today I have a brief note from Kramer 1963 pg. 52. Kramer says that around 2450 B.C: "A man named Ur-Nanshe established himself as king of Lagash and found a dynasty which was to endure for five generations. We do not know where Ur-Nanshe came from or how he rose to power - there is even a bare possibility that he was not originally a Sumerian but a Semite from the land known as Tidnum, to the west of Sumer. Be that as it may, he has left behind some fifty inscriptions on tablets, plaques, door sockets, bricks and nails, which record primarily the building of temples, digging of canals, and fashioning of divine statues. One of the sentences occurring repeatedly in these inscriptions.... One of Ur-Nanshe's sons, Akurgal, succeeded him on the throne of Lagash. Early in his reign he apparently ran into difficulties with the Ummaites, and his rule was of short duration. He was succeeded by his son Eannatum, whose military conquests made him the most powerful figure of his day, so much so that he dared assume, at least for a brief few years, the title King of Kish, which carried with it the claimed of supremacy over all Sumer." - Note here that Kramer does not mention about the father of Ur-Nanshe, there is stele which at least tells us the name of the person: Gunidu. Will have to hit the library tommorow to try and find out more on Gunidu. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Nanshe- Ur-Nanshe -> Akurgal -> Eannatum - The french institute of Ancient Languages does have some Ur-Nanshe inscriptions remember - langueanciennes site- Our own thread on Early Dynastic Incantations (reply #1) deals with the Ur-Nanshe's Diorite incantation. - N. Postgate speaks directly about this plaque you look at above, I will retrieve his comments tommorow at library. ;]
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Post by sheshki on Aug 10, 2008 10:45:53 GMT -5
- Ur-Nanshe -> Akurgal -> Eannatum and we can continue that a bit, because Eannatum got a brother, Enannatum who followed up. And he was succeeded by his son Entemena. Family business...
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Post by sheshki on Aug 13, 2008 11:10:09 GMT -5
Oh and Entemena (does anyone know why some people call him Enmetena??) got a son too, EnanatumII, King of Lagash. But i think he was more a kind of marionette king to the highpriest of lagash. Here is a quote from a scan ush sent me. Under Entemena, nephew and second successor of Eannatum and only other militarily strong members of Ur-Nanshes dynastie, the high priests of Ningirsu appeared on inscriptions as coequals with the ensi. The second of these hightpriests,Enetarzi, allowed Entemena´s son(EnanatumII) only some four years of puppet rule before usurping the position of ensi and drawing down the courtain on ur-nanshes dynastie.
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Post by sheshki on Aug 18, 2008 18:52:08 GMT -5
Enenurians, an update took place at ---> Enenurusumerian history-->notes on kings---> the first dynastie of Lagash added page still under construction
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Post by sheshki on Aug 25, 2008 21:31:43 GMT -5
e n e n u r i a n s,
updated ---> sumerian history--->notes on kings<--->2 Kings added [Lugaldalu,Enshakushanna]--->First dynastie of Lagash<--->cdli links added, cdli numbers without link dont have lineart or transliteration
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Post by sheshki on Aug 31, 2008 16:36:32 GMT -5
enenurians i just finished my research at cdli for entries of rulers from EdIII times. i looked through 818 entries...that was a bit work.i only linked cdli numbers when transliteration and image is given at cdli. so updated-->sumerian history-->notes on kings-->all sections www.enenuru.net
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Post by sheshki on Sept 1, 2008 17:35:14 GMT -5
enenurians, a step closer to world domination. uh, am i allowed to speak about our evil plans in public , ush? if not let me know . ahm, where was i , ah, the domination thing, so the next step is the updated enenuru homepage. more sections to spread our word...and all the sublimal messages... look for yourself www.enenuru.net
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Sept 1, 2008 17:42:27 GMT -5
In case its not immiediately apparent to members here, Sheshki refers to the recent addition of the MISC section! Where we put all sorts of stuff like the Abu Salabikh god list and stuff that doesnt fit in other places.
Submit your ideas for stuff in the MISC section here!
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Post by ummia-inim-gina on Sept 2, 2008 13:02:04 GMT -5
The Misc. link will not work for me.
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Post by sheshki on Sept 2, 2008 18:11:54 GMT -5
There is nothing behind that misc. link yet, but soon!
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