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Mar 14, 2011 10:48:52 GMT -5
Post by muska on Mar 14, 2011 10:48:52 GMT -5
Excellent! Mighty indeed. Anzud (according to Afanasieva s explanation of Lugalbanda epic) is a patron-god of initiation, who evoke the human mind.
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Mar 15, 2011 11:12:51 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Mar 15, 2011 11:12:51 GMT -5
Muska, I'm glad you like it. I would like to note that during my field sorceries the confrontation with this entity has evoked in me mostly sheer terror and panic so my eyes have become not unlike those of certain Sumerian statuettes... Yet I have to admit that in certain cases I've been able to communicate therewith and it has proved to be a sensible entity. I haven't a great affinity to the storm-gods but I'm afraid they have an affinity to me or maybe I manage to make them show a personal interest in me. Once I had to run some kilometers with this entity breathing out at my back till I reach my safe cave ... Imdugud uses to abide Cumulunimbus calvus. Attachments:
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Mar 15, 2011 11:39:30 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Mar 15, 2011 11:39:30 GMT -5
Once I had to throw out of myself any metal objects, and to prostrate myself under its murderous shadow trembling for my life and praying it to spare me, it was awful terribly - as if I trembled with an ancient collective terror - a very debasing experience indeed. I felt as if beaten by street bullies or something far worse - I've never been at real war but the way the lightnings fell down around me should have something in common... Sometimes I have managed to control it by taking some anthropomorphic storm-god-form, sometimes I have succeded even to banish Imdugud by taking some Mush-mah-Ushumgal-Mush-hush-like form (since I belong emotionally to the underworld kind of deities), but such an approach could be risky because Imdugud may decide to accept the battle and one's guardian may prove not the stronger one... Yet the best way is to avoid staying on its way and searching for a safe place. A scientist would say that I speak about natural phenomena in a subjective mythic way - I would say it's a question of culture and sensitivity. (Unlike the above one this picture isn't taken by myself but shows very well who is there...) Attachments:
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Mar 15, 2011 14:31:26 GMT -5
Post by muska on Mar 15, 2011 14:31:26 GMT -5
But both Snake and Eagle belongs to Bird-and-Snake-Goddess Inanna and her ways. This artist also notices that we can see in Inanna s image a trace of the ancient Neolithic Bird and Snake Goddess, but he takes his info from popular site and I don t know from what scholarly opinion this came from (It could not be Afanasieva, who has very similar view). Back to the artist, he depicted Inanna so much pregnant but neverthenless holding her terrifying powers browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&global=1&q=inanna#/dffbr0To my opinion, it is not related to widerspread and very wrong view on Inanna as fluffy mother-goddess, it s deeper glance.
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Mar 15, 2011 16:07:23 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Mar 15, 2011 16:07:23 GMT -5
This painting is primevally powerful. The figure of the goddess suggest a phallus as well. Another uniting of opposite forces, male and female.
Well while still human, one is incomplete. I've never had problems with Imdugud when accompanied by a sorceress-priestess of Inanna. It has happened to be with different priestess, some conscious, some half-conscious, and some unconscious about their belonging to Inanna, but either of them has been as a protector to me when confronting Imdugud. You've probably seen my art-vision of Inanna in this thread? Such women are very rare but even they are incomplete because there comes a moment when they start willing to have a baby, and are not able to conduct Inanna's power anymore... (Yet I don't blaspheme Ninhursag whose priestesses should be able to both bear children and stay sorceresses. However, I've never met such a priestess. )
Snake + Eagle = Dragon, the purpose of sorcery - when attained human is no more human. Yet the path of the snake to that purpose is to follow one's emotional predilections instead of suppressing them.
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Mar 15, 2011 16:22:23 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Mar 15, 2011 16:22:23 GMT -5
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Mar 16, 2011 3:56:45 GMT -5
Post by muska on Mar 16, 2011 3:56:45 GMT -5
Yes, I like you thunder-goddess Inanna. Another glamourous lady-Inanna from DeviantArt fav.me/d25hzv9In DA we can also find some Ereshkigal images and some stuff on other goddessess (Nammu, Ki, Ninlil), but for male Mesopotamian gods situation looks very sad.
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Mar 16, 2011 19:04:04 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Mar 16, 2011 19:04:04 GMT -5
While Inanna's expression is true for this situation, I have some reserves about the galla - yes, I get the artist's idea that even the galla are amazed by her fatal choice of substitute, but if we are to be mythologically true, the galla anticipate her decision in respect to Dumuzi - note that while they ask her about the previous eventual candidates, now they directly seize Dumuzi without asking her, so when she looks at him with the look of death, spokes to him with the speech of anger, shouts at him with the shout of heavy guilt: "How much longer? Take him away", he is already in their hands. Their anticipation of her intent shows that though the galla are inhuman and far more ominous than the KGB, they are sentient entities as well
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Mar 16, 2011 19:11:49 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Mar 16, 2011 19:11:49 GMT -5
As for the poor presence of male Mesopotamian deities, I'm working now on a collage dedicated to Enki
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Mar 17, 2011 6:08:01 GMT -5
Post by muska on Mar 17, 2011 6:08:01 GMT -5
Good luck!
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Mar 18, 2011 10:52:39 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Mar 18, 2011 10:52:39 GMT -5
Thanks Muska! I already have a vision
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Mar 22, 2011 6:29:22 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Mar 22, 2011 6:29:22 GMT -5
However, I was in hurry to complete it for the Equinox, and probably I will later notice there are some things to correct Attachments:
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Mar 22, 2011 6:35:15 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Mar 22, 2011 6:35:15 GMT -5
Here it is also another variant of Imdugud. Attachments:
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Mar 22, 2011 9:23:08 GMT -5
Post by muska on Mar 22, 2011 9:23:08 GMT -5
Your Enki is very essential artwork (I like your allusions on Enki and Ninhursag)! And new Imdugud emphasized the divinity of this bird.
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Mar 22, 2011 15:14:09 GMT -5
Post by sheshki on Mar 22, 2011 15:14:09 GMT -5
Very nice pictures! When can i add some to enenuru.net?
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Mar 24, 2011 10:57:04 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Mar 24, 2011 10:57:04 GMT -5
Thanks Muska, It's a time-loop which happens in the nearness of Abzu Thanks Sheshki, Well I could send them to you via email - just tell me but I upload them here as attachments in their original sizes, so you can download them from this thread as well. I only transform the many-layered working psd files into jpg files after I finish my work, and then delete them since they are tooo big to keep them in my system. I preserve as psd files only the component elements for some further use Here it is the bettered varriant - I think now the cuneiform inscription is more decent than in the previous copy, so I would like to add this one to enenuru.net Attachments:
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Mar 24, 2011 17:03:09 GMT -5
Post by sheshki on Mar 24, 2011 17:03:09 GMT -5
Well, send them via e-mail, a size of 1024x768 is enough, cant use them if they are much bigger, probably have to reduce them to 800x600. also nice would be some informations about you, your motivation etc, which i could use to introduce you
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Apr 3, 2011 13:18:21 GMT -5
Post by muska on Apr 3, 2011 13:18:21 GMT -5
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Apr 3, 2011 16:39:52 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Apr 3, 2011 16:39:52 GMT -5
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Apr 3, 2011 16:47:31 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Apr 3, 2011 16:47:31 GMT -5
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Apr 3, 2011 16:51:55 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Apr 3, 2011 16:51:55 GMT -5
The above link being unreliable I'm attaching it from my collection. Attachments:
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Post by muska on Apr 4, 2011 9:51:37 GMT -5
Topic of art associated with Sumerian mythology could be huge and interesting. These works strictly associated for me with Inanna while artists had not aim to depict her fav.me/d37yz1eLuis Royo smallbay.ru/x.html
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Apr 4, 2011 12:26:21 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Apr 4, 2011 12:26:21 GMT -5
Sorry Muska, neither of the links shows any image. I tried different browsers.
Yes, I can imagine, I have similar subjective associations, especially with musical pieces. One may have different doors to enter one's magical realms. I'm most predisposed to musical pathways.
When all senses are engaged in associations with one's deity the ritual is there.
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Apr 4, 2011 13:25:21 GMT -5
Post by muska on Apr 4, 2011 13:25:21 GMT -5
Yes, I have some musical associations too. There are other links to above-mentioned "Inanna" images. The first one is essential picture of Inanna-type person, the second (Luis Royo s art) associated with Enki s blessings to Inanna in Enki and World Order: "Inana, you heap up human heads like piles of dust, you sow heads like seed" browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&q=azula+02#/d37yz1ealbum.foto.ru/photo/24303/
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Post by enkur on Apr 5, 2011 9:36:00 GMT -5
Oh yes, I can recognize her in these images The sweet-spoilt-nuisance girl who stamps foot before her grand-grand-father is another image of her I love, and many other charming aspects of her I'm not able to give examples in the moment. Here it is a hymn to her by Beherit but one may really appreciate it if one likes metal-industrial-like music. The text is obviously taken from the Necronomicon, but one is to be condescending because of the sincere male devotion in the song. I like it and I have successfully used it as a background to my invocations to her. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOpCNVPmBVI
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Apr 5, 2011 12:07:56 GMT -5
Post by muska on Apr 5, 2011 12:07:56 GMT -5
Yes, I also can imagine Inanna as a little spoiled brat. In one hymn I found a reference that she shown her impetuos nature already in her mother s womb. etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/etcsl.cgi?text=t.4.07.5#(line 12). The music track sounds powerful, thank for the reference.
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Apr 5, 2011 15:10:52 GMT -5
Post by sheshki on Apr 5, 2011 15:10:52 GMT -5
Enkur, how about using this track ---> as invocation background music and let me know if it works...just curious
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Apr 5, 2011 17:59:15 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Apr 5, 2011 17:59:15 GMT -5
Muska, Thank you for the reference. These šita and mitum maces which Inanna wielded still in her mother's womb are intriguing indeed. This text is interesting also with showing a warrior aspect of Dumuzid. Sheshki, You have forgotten I gave you a feedback as soon as I first listened to Nanab Ishtar - I liked it very much. Well I've already used it in my ritual, it works particularly well in the phase when Inanna hangs like a corpse on the hook in the netherworld while the memory of her is wandering around and gala-tura and kur-ĝara are approaching to resurrect her. Such is the vision it inspires to me, a bit cold music for Inanna in general but it fits very well this most dark moment between death and returning to life in her story. It's Inanna's faint dawn after her darkest night. In fact she is the soft radiance of the sky during the twilight of dusk and dawn wherein the evening and the morning star shines - Nanab Ishtar expresses it very well. I find Beherit's song also a little bit cold despite of its sincere adoration. To me Inanna appears of warm, romantic and passionate nature despite of her dark and awe-inspiring nuances. Here it is a subjective association of mine, which I use in my Inanna ritual for the phase Inanna passes through the 7 gates of Ganzer. www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7qX9p_02nwI don't know if Lisa has meant Inanna's crossing but it makes me to bristle when subjectively associate it with Inanna in this dramatic moment.
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Apr 5, 2011 18:21:03 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Apr 5, 2011 18:21:03 GMT -5
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Apr 5, 2011 18:31:51 GMT -5
Post by enkur on Apr 5, 2011 18:31:51 GMT -5
I don't know who painted this classics and which moment of the Greek mythology it represents (Persephone?) but I found it in the google images for Ereshkigal. The presence of Hermes as a psychopompos here could be associated with Ningishzidda. Attachments:
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