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Post by symbolic on Apr 6, 2015 4:03:44 GMT -5
Hi All, I'm currently studying cylinder and stamp seals from all regions during the Bronze age, but am stumbling on a certain aspects of symbolism I'm finding on Kassite and other items.
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Post by seeker666utu on Apr 10, 2015 16:05:22 GMT -5
Welcome Symbolic.
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Post by hukkana on Apr 26, 2015 6:42:09 GMT -5
Well, this will probably be a mouthfull people so I suggest y'all strap in:
I'm a layman with a specific field of interest, being the history of ancient religion and history, especially of monarchy, in general, which is intertwined with my own political orientation as a monarchist, which can itself be tough sometimes as some people have the tendency to either overlook the word "constitutional" in "constitutional monarchy", or make statements about monarchies inherent lack of democracy, seemingly never having heard of Great Britain.
My fields of interest otherwise include not only the history and religion of Sumer and Akkad, but also of Syria, the Phoenicians and the Carthaginians, Ugarit, the Hittite and Hurian states, Urartu, the countless peoples of the Zagros, and chiefly of Elam.
Adding to that is my interest in Onomastics, leading me to compiling several lengthy lists of personal names from various onomasticons, tablets, etc. I am currently spending a lot of time transcribing the names from the Nuzi Personal Names onomasticon, and have gone back to work using the Elamite Onomasticon by Ran Zadok.
To represent this, my username is that of Hukkana, king of Hayaša, a state of the Armenian Highlands who signed a treaty with King Šuppiluliuma I, and my avatar is Elamite King Shilhak-Inšušinak presenting a pendant to his daughter, from a relief carved on said pendant.
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Post by seeker666utu on Apr 27, 2015 13:35:01 GMT -5
Welcome Hukkana.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on May 1, 2015 8:25:09 GMT -5
Hello hukkana welcome to the board. Well, interesting angle not sure that I have spoken to someone with a pronounced monarchist view. Not that I have really spoken to people with an anti-monarchist view or one that was well formulated - it is isn't a big topic in Canada (where I usually live) although you might expect that it would be. Nonetheless, in the last week I have toured London and Buckingham palace for the first time, which from a tourists point of view, was really something (although this says little about politics). In any case, something I do put more thought into are matters of the ancient world and hopefully you will find things here to support both your ancient and modern interests.
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Post by hukkana on May 4, 2015 5:33:08 GMT -5
Hello hukkana welcome to the board. Well, interesting angle not sure that I have spoken to someone with a pronounced monarchist view. Not that I have really spoken to people with an anti-monarchist view or one that was well formulated - it is isn't a big topic in Canada (where I usually live) although you might expect that it would be. Nonetheless, in the last week I have toured London and Buckingham palace for the first time, which from a tourists point of view, was really something (although this says little about politics). In any case, something I do put more thought into are matters of the ancient world and hopefully you will find things here to support both your ancient and modern interests. Oh it's more common then you think : P And thanks for the encouragement, I hope I will. |
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Post by mike on Jun 8, 2015 2:30:02 GMT -5
Just a quick note to explain why I'm here:
I got interested in ancient Mesopotamia about a year ago - so I'm no kind of expert. Partly as a result of that interest, I began to write a novel late last year (it's reached about 60,000 words so far) which uses Sumerian/Babylonian myths - chiefly The Descent of Inanna - as a framework and symbolic focus. I'm currently wrestling with the challenge of incorporating the Akitum Festival in the novel. I do, however, have a wider interest in Sumer, Akkad, Babylonia and Assyria, which I think will continue after the novel is finished.
I arrived at this forum today because I was trying to follow up on a hint I read somewhere that cuneiform signs had a magical significance underlying their more mundane uses for communication. However, I know next to nothing about that and I may be completely mistaken.
(I should point out, perhaps, that my interest in magic is novelistic rather than mystical.)
I haven't even skimmed the surface of enenuru yet, but it seems a valuable and exciting resource.
Since I see the site primarily as a research tool, I may not be very active in discussion in the future. I still feel diffident about my limited knowledge. But at least you now know who I am and why I'm here.
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Post by creyente on Jun 29, 2015 14:24:24 GMT -5
Hello everyone, my name is sebastian, my nickname "creyente" means believer. im from argentina, and i want to learn as much as possible about sumerian religion and culture.
i used to be christian, until i had certain experiences that could be called "revelations", met people of different religions and saw things that until now i dont know how to explain exactly, after searching for a while on the internet for an explanation to what i have seen, i found T/S... there i got answears to many questions i had, and started to understand what was before a mistery for me.
other things that i think must be interesting to say is, here in argentina we have a province called "entre rios" wich means "between rivers"... and on the other hand, id like to bring sumerian religion to my country, but its hard to meet the prequisits with law... i will need at least one priest to represent the religion here and some kind of proof that the "head of the church" is ok with it...
thanks in advance to everyone, hope to learn a lot, and be helpfull to this comunity.
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Post by enkur on Jul 1, 2015 3:25:52 GMT -5
Hello Sebastian. Of course you can learn a lot here if you're a researcher by nature. However, as far as I know, this is a non-religious board which uses academic and scholar approach in investigating the ancient Mesopotamian traditions. It's based mainly on the archaeological and linguistic research, and it has little to do with reconstructing the ancient Sumerian religion in some neo-pagan sense. On the other hand, a former (?) member of this board has a site which is dedicated namely to the reconstruction of the Sumerian religion, and which might be of a greater interest to you: www.templeofsumer.org/ Me myself, belong to neither of the schools but use both the approaches in pursuing my own aims. I would just advise you whatever you do in your country to do it discreetly. You can email me personally if you're interested in the purely magical side of these things. |
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Post by creyente on Jul 1, 2015 11:34:58 GMT -5
thank you, i already know of temple of sumer, i came here to learn mostly, and to meet people with similar interest in mesopotamic culture, religion, etc... is there any books you recomend to read? is there a specific order i should read them?
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Jul 6, 2015 15:20:28 GMT -5
Creyente: Welcome to enenuru. I am not sure where to begin in responding to your many posts, some 23 posts in the last week. My first suggestion is that you may want to slow down a bit, no one who visits this board is going to be able to keep up and respond to 23 posts in one week. I also think you may have a few misunderstandings about this board - this is not a place to discuss your views of religion or how to contact the gods or anything like that. You said in one post "in the religious perspective, in the scholar perspective" so you know there are two perspectives. This is a board for the scholar perspective. You do not need *to be* a scholar or a student, but to discuss in the interest of learning and studying - not practicing. You can ask 'how did the ancients worship Enki?' But not 'how do I worship Enki?' There is a big difference between those two questions. There are other groups out there such as T/S where pagans can meet and talk about religion. I suggest you slow it down a bit, and take some time to read and consider our posting policy at the following link: enenuru.proboards.com/thread/434/posting-policy |
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Post by creyente on Jul 6, 2015 16:51:01 GMT -5
thanks, ive been adviced by private meassege to change my aproach to this forum, i will stay in the scholar aproach from now on, didnt though it would be bad to be overly active, i will slow down a bit if thats needed, sorry for any trouble i may have caused.
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Post by hukkana on Jul 7, 2015 14:07:01 GMT -5
It's not bad if you're inquisitive I guess. But this place isn't the most active a lot of the time so keep that in mind.
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Post by Gamalanen on Jul 29, 2015 18:22:42 GMT -5
Hey folks,
I'm looking for advice or knowledge regarding Sumero-Akkadian cuneiform script, specifically lines in the Enuma Elis.
This is probably the incorrect thread in which to post but if someone could point me in the right direction I would be incredibly grateful.
Apologies if this post seems a bit slap-dash, thank you for your time. =)
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Post by roach on Sept 18, 2015 17:03:28 GMT -5
Uhm...well...
Hi!
My name is Annine aka. Roach and I'm from Austria
I'm studying Ethnology, Ancient History and Ancient Oriental Studies. I must say I had always been interestet in History, mostly military history but some time ago I came across "The epic of Gilgamesh" and since then I started to read more about the whole topic and found it highly interesting. This year I will start to take classes in Oriental Archaeology, Culture and Cuneiform. I already looked at some topics and I can learn something from you.
Really glad there is a forum like that! : D
thank you that i can be here! : D
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Post by hukkana on Sept 19, 2015 7:40:17 GMT -5
Welcome Annine. : D
It sort of feels weird to call a girl "roach". XD
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Post by sheshki on Sept 19, 2015 7:45:13 GMT -5
Hi roach, welcome on board, and Grüß Gott.  Sheshki |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Sept 19, 2015 17:24:22 GMT -5
Welcome Roach Would be exciting to be a new student in a place as prestigious as Vienna - and the reputation of Altorientalistik in Vienna is well known. Hope you won't hesitate to ask if we could be of any assistance. I have been studying cuneiform languages at the university for numerous years now, and have gathered some good digitized resources for study (pdfs). Please e-mail me at bill.mcgrath@mail.utoronto.ca if your interested in these resources. |
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Post by roach on Sept 22, 2015 15:35:50 GMT -5
Danke euch/ Thank you guys!
@us4-he2-gal2: I'm studying at the University of Innsbruck since two years now (I already had one year of regular history before), it's called "Classica et Orientalia" there (and there are only about 40 people studying it).
I'm sure I will call for help. We will start in October, as said I'm going to take classes in Sumerian and Cuniform and I'm really excited. : D
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Post by enmerkar on Oct 2, 2015 4:54:56 GMT -5
Hello everybody, i'm astronomer amateur and historian. I live in (KurKur) ene France (ki). I'm working since years to decipher the K8538 tablet in british museum. I'm also preparing courses on internet for people who want to learn sumerian.
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Post by creyente on Oct 2, 2015 11:10:17 GMT -5
welcome enmerkar
i wish you succes with the tablet, and tell us when you have the courses ready, im sure someone will be interested on them(im one of those who would)
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Oct 5, 2015 0:48:22 GMT -5
Hello enmerker - Great to see an enthusiast from the public so interested and dedicated to working with cuneiform and Mesopotamian languages Wish you all the best. Would be happy to assist in whatever way I can, I think instructing interest members of the public is a great thing to do, provided they are serious learners of course. If you would like assistance with resources and so forth, feel free to e-mail me at bill.mcgrath@mail.utoronto.ca . Do you want assistant with K8538 or academic treatments of this text? The CDLI link is: www.cdli.ucla.edu/search/archival_view.php?ObjectID=P397674 |
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Post by sheshki on Oct 9, 2015 17:03:26 GMT -5
A warm welcome to all new members!
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Post by nemequm on Oct 27, 2015 9:48:21 GMT -5
Hi! I'm minoring in assyriology in the University of Helsinki, Finland. I heard that it's possible to learn cuneiform here in my first week in university couple years ago, and wanted to try it immediately. At first it was just a random idea. A year after that I started Akkadian, it was horrible (difficult!) but I also liked the course very much and decided to study more. I also learnt in the Akkadian course that I'm a linguist and I'd like to learn many more languages than "only" those ~seven I've tried already. The day I fell in love with this field of study was the day I heard they're planning to stop taking new major students in assyriology. I felt so much sadness and frustration because of that piece of news that I realised I don't only like assyriology but I also love it. (And the university and the government of Finland want to get rid of it, it's crazy) Love and hate. Both my major and assyriology make me feel love ans hate that every day |
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Post by hukkana on Oct 27, 2015 14:14:51 GMT -5
Welcome Nemequm. I'm sure folks on here will be willing to help you as much as they can.
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Post by sheshki on Oct 27, 2015 18:39:48 GMT -5
Terve nemequm, welcome on board!
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Oct 30, 2015 18:51:22 GMT -5
Nemequm - It is certainly a shame to hear of the problems for Assyriology in Helsinki, a department which has made major and significant contributions to our field. Parpola is provocative, unorthodox, but definitely brilliant, no one can dispute that.
Studying Akkadian is certainly a challenge, in terms of writing system in terms of grammar and all of it. Would certainly be happy to trade tips and techniques, feel free to e-mail me anytime or ask here. Best Regards, Bill
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Post by kurnugi4a on Oct 30, 2015 21:35:47 GMT -5
Hello,
I came across this board curious if there were any other fellows interested in Assyriology. Glad there is! I donated quite a bit of time to studying Akkadian and Sumerian while I was at university and my interest only grew from there. Particularly I enjoy reading Mesopotamian literature, and royal inscriptions and I've studied letters, administrative texts (ED IIIb), and incantations.
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Post by sheshki on Oct 31, 2015 18:15:37 GMT -5
Hello kurnugi4a, welcome on board.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Nov 2, 2015 2:37:34 GMT -5
Welcome to enenuru, kurnugi4a Certainly interested to hear about your background and current interests. Always pleasing to hear someone as an interest in Mesopotamian incantations of course, it's a small group. Last year I read some incantations from YOS 11 from a class, sometimes quite difficult. We were helped at times by using materials at the SEAL project which is based in Leipzig, have you seen it? www.seal.uni-leipzig.de/ |
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