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Post by phaewryn on Jun 18, 2008 21:35:05 GMT -5
What was the comment, maybe we can help to translate it  Haha, that's a novel idea! (it's cheating though, he will be disappointed that I gave up, and yes, he comes here and will see) I'm not even sure of the language... but that's half the fun (usually, but this is just frustrating, no amount of googling is turning up a couple of these words). ok ok, here ya go, have a stab at it: "Mamud ina akita du zi. Gi sa silim." |
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Post by phaewryn on Jun 18, 2008 22:31:23 GMT -5
Hello! I am Skot and I have so many handles, Anunnaki will work fine for here. Since my first read through Sumerian Mythology by SN Kramer, I've been in love with the Sumerian myths. I was led here by Phae and am glad to make your acquaintances, one and all. Darkness follows me, like my lithesome shadow, haunting the corner of my eye with it's taunting presence, always a part of me, yet never fully one. Under the apex of the sun, are we one, or are we utterly apart? When the clouds part and the brilliance of the full moon is cast down upon me, and I reach out with one milky white moonlit arm towards you tonight, I shall consider the contrast of my flesh against the darkness of my moonshadow, and long of you. Torzu ozongon yolcam avavago dooaip oi ollor; POLA SAGA; You know, you could comment me in a language I know, so I don't have to hunt these places down for help. Lovely to see you here, Skot. |
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Post by phaewryn on Jun 19, 2008 1:02:25 GMT -5
Thank you. I see you are in Memphis. Would that be the one in Tennessee? That is where I am from. I miss some of the food, and the ornamental metal museum (and decent coffee - but that's just from not being in a city in general). |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Jun 19, 2008 12:22:26 GMT -5
Hey Anunnaki. Kramer's Sumerian Mythology is also the first Academic book on the subject I read. There are thousands of scholarly works on this subject, each of which is a tiny piece of the picture - an image which at 4000 years distance is elusive and alluring at once, and something you can spend a lifetime chasing if your that type. So..keep reading. Phae - nice bit of poetry there. Feel free to msg me with your source if your source if you have chance.
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Post by phaewryn on Jun 19, 2008 12:48:04 GMT -5
Phae - nice bit of poetry there. Feel free to msg me with your source if your source if you have chance. MY source? Haha. That IS the question, is it not? Do you mean the translation of the Enochian line? "Arise manifold winds bring forth the thunders in the name of this man. TWO, TOGETHER - ONE, WHOLE." |
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Post by anunnaki on Jun 19, 2008 12:58:50 GMT -5
Hey Anunnaki. Kramer's Sumerian Mythology is also the first Academic book on the subject I read. There are thousands of scholarly works on this subject, each of which is a tiny piece of the picture - an image which at 4000 years distance is elusive and alluring at once, and something you can spend a lifetime chasing if your that type. So..keep reading. I can never be sated with new resources for this subject! I welcome any and all legitimate foundries of Sumerian and general Mesopotamian information. My favorite section of the topic is pre-Sargon Sumer. I've read Sumerian Mythology, The Sumerians, Inanna, Ur of the Chaldees, Babylonian Genesis, and smatterings of other sources. I also spend a lot of time on UPenn's ePSD, etana.org, and Halloran's Sumerian Lexicon for reference. If anyone has further recommendations, I am all ears. |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Jun 20, 2008 0:50:49 GMT -5
Phae: Sorry for the garbled question. It was the line above that I liked, if you wrote them very nice. ;]
Anannuki: Have sent email.
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Post by phaewryn on Jun 20, 2008 22:19:50 GMT -5
Phae: Sorry for the garbled question. It was the line above that I liked, if you wrote them very nice. ;] Hehe, yes, that was of my own doing, and thank you. If it works, I'll let you know. To his credit, he writes lovely poetry as well. I just bound his latest into a mini booklet, hehehe (cause let's face it, I've got no life, and I've got nothing better to do). Only a minimal amount of my blood was shed in it's making. Lovely double-passed cross-stiches bound in my blood. Romatic, no? (possibly just creepy) |
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Post by kahan on Jun 24, 2008 5:08:37 GMT -5
I followed Naomi here.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Jun 30, 2008 1:42:19 GMT -5
Ok Welcome to the board Kahan. Are you reading stuff, and learning stuff? It's a big old ancient obscurity around here hum. Lemme know if I can help.
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Post by ummia-inim-gina on Jul 4, 2008 21:39:14 GMT -5
Hi everyone, surprising to hear Halloron isn't an actual Sumerologist, he always sounds so authoritative. Anyhow, I just wanted to let everyone know that I have changed my profile name from Enlil to ummia-inim-gina in an effort to have a single universal screen name every where on the internet.
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Post by saharda on Jul 13, 2008 15:37:44 GMT -5
I aint dead!
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I've just been concentrating much of my efforts on modern Sumerian practitioners. Carving idols takes time. The reverse is also true, UsHeGal there barely ever says anything on TOD.
Welcome to the board all of you new people. I note that Phae is familiar with Enochian, that's pretty much an occult only dialect if I remember correctly.
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Post by flipsideslugger on Aug 6, 2008 16:48:36 GMT -5
Hey all.... My name is Tiffany, you can call me flip if you want, or tif, any way works for me. I am a college student, although not for sumerian studies. criminal justice actually, but when I was in high school, some of the Sumerian myths were required reading for my english classes. So that is how I developed an interest. I don't have much else beyond an interest and willingness to learn, so I'll contribute what I can...  |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 7, 2008 2:01:50 GMT -5
Hey Tif: Welcome to the board - you are now a member now that you've made an intro post You're one of the ones that "get it". Great to have you here, and if you are starting with Sumerian mythology, the " Deity, Demons and Agents of Illness" thread may make a good accompaniment. I suggest the headings on Innana/Ishtar/Aphrodite/Isis, Tiamat, Namma Abzu and Apzu, and Imdugud to start. P.S. When you are reading your introductions to myth, you are matching this information with the myths as they appear at ETCSL aren't you? (Electronic Text Corpus of Sumerian Literature) see link hereSee you around. |
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Post by pizzewis on Aug 14, 2008 14:08:58 GMT -5
So this is me, Pipi, from Belgium. I read (or try to) Akkadian, Sumerian, Ugaritic, Hebrew, Aramaic and Old Persian. I studied ANE at KUL and try to finish (or must I say continue or even (re)start)) my research on magic and medicine in Mesopotamia. Hope this forum can give me a bump to get to it soon, although it will be hard, starting a new job and moving and being sick all the time (but let's hope the last thing is only temporally). I'm a big fan of professor Geller and professor Stol (the first one also first on my list) and of Theo Krispijn (has anyone heard his oldest song?? Marvelous!!).
I would like to apologize already for my bad English and my typing mistakes (stupid laptop!).
Hope to learn a lot and hope I can contribute here and there.
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 15, 2008 1:07:57 GMT -5
Welcome Pipi! You didn't tell me you have reading into so many languages, but then, I haven't had a chance to ask yet ;] Such wonderful interests.. Perhaps we could find a Mesopotamian remedy for your sickness, and take care of two of your concerns at once? Never know heh. So.. if thats your official permissions, I for one will do all the 'bumping' I can.  |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 15, 2008 13:13:07 GMT -5
Oh! I forgot. I do know Geller and Stol, but am not aware of Theo Krispijn. Guess you'll have to educate me on that one ;]
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Post by pizzewis on Aug 19, 2008 3:50:37 GMT -5
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Post by shupuwhenip on Aug 20, 2008 1:04:43 GMT -5
That's pretty good. I hadn't heard Krispijn's song but I did hear Jukka Ammondt do a version of Elvis's "Blue Suede Shoes" in Sumerian. Has anyone else noticed how sexual the Sumerian lyrics/songs/poems were? I guess not much has changed over the years - sex still sells |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 20, 2008 12:01:08 GMT -5
Yes, the Elvis production is amusing and novel, I like when Sumerian things suddenly intrude on the modern world it is strange and and humorous in some contexts. This one has been noted on the POPULAR REFERENCES thread (reply # 18) , but no one seems to have bought the cd and gave a review or sample yet: Your working on that thought aren't you Lara?  As for Krispijn, thanks very much for sharing pizzewis! His voice and playing are beautiful and I have never heard anything like it. This is a very interesting topic and I think we should make a new thread on it and will review the information on Krispijn's reconstruction in detail - will try and do this Thur. or Fri. night. I know when I attended Michalowski's lecture on ANE music in january (it was called 'The Harmony of the Spheres') , Michalowski explains that he has longed to hear an Authentic Sumerian song all his career, but at length, doesnt beleive it is possible. Much to consider here then. p.s. Shupu - We are big fans of Sumerian explicitness at enenuru and are working toward a good Sumerian pickup line. See the Bal.bal.e thread. Also there is an abstract chat thread on the subject, sort of, kicking around the General board |
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Post by sheshki on Aug 20, 2008 13:39:15 GMT -5
Oh, what a beautiful and touching song. Thanks for sharing!
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 25, 2008 8:26:15 GMT -5
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Post by laramar on Aug 28, 2008 16:24:51 GMT -5
Hi, I am Lara. I have had this problem...no, that's not what I was going to say!
Well, newly started with ANE studies, I'm really fascinated by the ancient Mesopotamian history and culture. I guess I could put the blame on Fields of the Nephilim for initially getting into the subject - the song 'Sumerland' awoke my interest and I decided to search the library for some books. After reading Jean Bottéro's "Religion in Ancient Mesopotamia" I knew I had found my ambition. I'm planning on becoming a full-time student some time in the future, but that is still a far away dream.
My other interests include music, reading, yoga and spending time with family (including my dog...) and friends. Did I mention music...?
The information and resources provided here will no doubt help me in my studies. I hope to be able to contribute also in some way along my learning.
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Post by laramar on Aug 28, 2008 17:22:06 GMT -5
Yes, the Elvis production is amusing and novel, I like when Sumerian things suddenly intrude on the modern world it is strange and and humorous in some contexts. This one has been noted on the POPULAR REFERENCES thread (reply # 18) , but no one seems to have bought the cd and gave a review or sample yet: Your working on that thought aren't you Lara? Yes, I'm waiting impatiently for the cd to arrive. I hope lyrics are included so that I can sing along  |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Aug 29, 2008 1:01:42 GMT -5
Welcome Lara! There's something funny about you o_0 I'm not sure how new to the board you reeeallyyy are hmm, very suspicious about that now. Strange since you sound like you'd fit right in and all 0_0 I'll just have to assume there was never a problem at all and expect to see the newer louder Lara around now hum. Yay! And I thought I was going to need to pressure you or something well See yous! P.S. Can you post a recording of you singing along to the Sumerian Elvis? On the "Reconstructing Mesopotamian Music" thread (subtitle: What if 'the King' was a eunuch at the temple of Inana?) |
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Post by tracyc on Aug 30, 2008 6:12:49 GMT -5
Hello
Just a quick introduction. I am currently an undergraduate at Liverpool University, studying Archaeology, Classics and Ancient History. I have only had the opportunity to study two related modules- Sumerian and Sumerian Language - both of which I particularly enjoyed and am very keen to study further into the subject. Otherwise in general I am an arty sort of a person!
Thanks - Tracyc
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Post by laramar on Aug 30, 2008 7:57:37 GMT -5
Welcome Lara! There's something funny about you o_0 I'm not sure how new to the board you reeeallyyy are hmm, very suspicious about that now. Strange since you sound like you'd fit right in and all 0_0 I'll just have to assume there was never a problem at all and expect to see the newer louder Lara around now hum. Yay! And I thought I was going to need to pressure you or something well Thanks us4! But loud...? Hmm, now that I've finally found the 'post' button with kind assistance from sheshki, be afraid, be very afraid... Sure but hey - I have quite extensive vocal range, which means I sing any Kalevalaic Youkahainen into the swamp |
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Post by us4-he2-gal2 on Sept 8, 2008 22:48:02 GMT -5
Hey Tracy - welcome to enenuru Wonderful to able to study a broad range of topics and still pick up a little Sumerian to I think! As for studying further into the topic, or discussion on studying further, just name an particular aspect of Sumerian studies and I and maybe a few others will begin flooding your mail box *wink* |
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Post by enki on Sept 11, 2008 12:19:48 GMT -5
Hi, just a quick intro.
My 'real' name is Marcus. I love the arts & ancient history, just about anything BCE. Sumerian is fascinating! This site is interesting, not the usual stuffy intellectual graveyard. I had an idea for learning some basic Sumerian similar to kindergarten or elementary school. Picture dictionary, flash cards, etc. Has anyone approached it this way?
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Post by xuchilpaba on Sept 11, 2008 22:15:15 GMT -5
I have never heard of any "basic" being taught in elementary. I didn't even know who the Sumerians were up until a few years ago.
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